RE: Elfrosto
Not a single one of those examples is anything but a counter, none are a charge back 
Lets make
a blade master countering a charge.
how could this possibly be a returned charge? I would imagine it is more of a, step aside and slash with two blades.
No matter whose charging. With it predicted especially, that means you know its coming...have prepared for it. With EVERY other skill in the game, if you predict it....you twin counter them.
If a BLM predicts your charge, they cannot use certain skills...or break the predict. They also can only predict one thing at a time leaving them vulnerable to other attacks. Why would they suffer lag with this one skill?
Course doesnt an awake BLM counter every other charge with twin?
So its not that big of a blow against super charge, hahah. Still overpowered to be able to chain lag with it. I still do not even understand why it doesnt have a timer like even the Q skill versions of charge get timers.
When did muhammed ali die? That's what I want to know.....well that and how did he have to wait to be approved undead status.
dude he had a terrible app time. Spent about 40 years with ok rp, but GREAT pk before he got it finally.
Haha.
Course doesnt an awake BLM counter every other charge with twin?
No, and it's not just blademasters.
[25]Slinore: [===|---|---|---]
flee
You flee south from combat!
PREP WORK
Versinus yells 'Help! Slinore just charged into me!'
Versinus turns your attack against you.
Versinus's charge attack MANGLES you! You sure are BLEEDING!
Versinus has some big nasty wounds and scratches.
When you play a class with counter, when you get charged you counter with the verb "charge".
I've always had the impressions that "charge countering" normal classes doesn't lag you and it seems like I am right since Emp's last posts.
So the whole thing seems to be coming from mino's "charges lag ALWAYS" feature, no matter whether you counter them or have protective shield up.
Now, from a logical point of view, the whole "you reverse someone's attack against him" doesn't really go well with the fact that you still get the lag from it.
It terrifies me that me and f0xx are on the same level for anything.
And that is exactly it. If I turn a DKs cleave, I cleave him back, I can't even GET the cleave skill. And I don't get lagged 2 rounds for cleaving.
I am simply stating that it seems odd that when you counter (reverse) something you STILL get the negative effect from it, even if you don't get the damage.
This is like successfully predicting a fire giant's bash but still getting lagged by it because they have a bonus to bash.
I am simply stating that it seems odd that when you counter (reverse) something you STILL get the negative effect from it, even if you don't get the damage.
This is like successfully predicting a fire giant's bash but still getting lagged by it because they have a bonus to bash.
exactly.
You predict trip, you dont get lagged for it either.
Minotaur is the ONLY race in the game that can 100% reliably without fail lag ANYONE no matter what they do.
I find this even more broken with protective shield and "balance" type skills. You can bodyslam, THRUST, Bash, trip, even charge (any race but min) and I keep my balance...only a minotaur can lag through these skills.
Minotaur is the ONLY race in the game that can 100% reliably without fail lag ANYONE no matter what they do.
Never thought of it that way. I'm on board now. 