HBwillie Posted April 30, 2007 Report Share Posted April 30, 2007 Have you ever been training on a bumpkin when he suddently disappears? Then, every time you summon to you, someone else continues summoning him back? What a great time to have a drow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talcian Posted April 30, 2007 Report Share Posted April 30, 2007 Haha, I love doing that. Sometimes you can send them a little present with it- plague. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tantangel Posted April 30, 2007 Report Share Posted April 30, 2007 I did that once. Then one day I summon a mob for a item that's rare that's pretty nifty, nearly kill it but my sanc drops and I didn't want to risk the mob dishing out damage and killing me just because I didn't have it. So I flee, put it up and realize my mana is near null and I sleep a tick to finish it. I go back in, mob is gone. Then I summon, but fail, summon again and suddenly the mob is dead. Do a who and the only person able to summon was some 50. Angers me greatly when those things happen because the item never did repop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyzarius Posted April 30, 2007 Report Share Posted April 30, 2007 with stytnlye i found that summoning a pig could bring an unprepared and easy soul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pali Posted April 30, 2007 Report Share Posted April 30, 2007 I did that once. Then one day I summon a mob for a item that's rare that's pretty nifty' date=' nearly kill it but my sanc drops and I didn't want to risk the mob dishing out damage and killing me just because I didn't have it. So I flee, put it up and realize my mana is near null and I sleep a tick to finish it. I go back in, mob is gone. Then I summon, but fail, summon again and suddenly the mob is dead. Do a who and the only person able to summon was some 50. Angers me greatly when those things happen because the item never did repop.[/quote'] I hate it when something like that happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mindflayer Posted April 30, 2007 Report Share Posted April 30, 2007 Simple fix for the level 50 shaman, summon your bumpkin, blanket of darkness, problem solved Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nekky Posted April 30, 2007 Report Share Posted April 30, 2007 Shamans can insomnia any mob anyways, they don't have to be bound to a bumpkin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evangelion Posted April 30, 2007 Report Share Posted April 30, 2007 What's better is when you're one of those decked militant healers, and someone summons away your bumpkin. You put up sanc and divine retribution, gate to it, and kick the person's *** while they spam train. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zrothum Posted April 30, 2007 Report Share Posted April 30, 2007 And then get outcasted and made fun-of for being a niche knight healer and then delete cause no one takes you seriously....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evangelion Posted April 30, 2007 Report Share Posted April 30, 2007 And then get outcasted and made fun-of for being a niche knight healer and then delete cause no one takes you seriously....... Unless you're the one and only person to ever play a Praetorian Healer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Celerity Posted April 30, 2007 Report Share Posted April 30, 2007 at which point you should've stayed a cleric and not made the conversion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zrothum Posted April 30, 2007 Report Share Posted April 30, 2007 Unless you're the one and only person to ever play a Praetorian Healer. That's even MORE niche. It's like, im gonna PK but go Sigil to cover it up.... Yet you say Im gonna PK and make the world knows Im a healer who wants to abuse the class love you lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Implementor Anume Posted April 30, 2007 Implementor Report Share Posted April 30, 2007 Healer who continually behaves agressively towards non-undead: 1. OUTCAST 2. Align change and/ or nospell 3. Laugh at them as they can't commune. 4. Let them be agressive all they want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zrothum Posted April 30, 2007 Report Share Posted April 30, 2007 See, Balinor? Eshaine's got you down to a T. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tantangel Posted May 1, 2007 Report Share Posted May 1, 2007 Healers shouldn't allow to PK unless: A) Defending themselves Defending their Cabal C) Retrieving their Cabal Standard D) Killing an Undead Sorry to say it, but Healers are overpowered in the PK department. Get the right person behind them, and you can have a Healer that's nearly unstoppable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Questioner Posted May 1, 2007 Report Share Posted May 1, 2007 Healers are not unstoppable. If they make one mistake, get lagged by computer, or decide to have a cup of tea, they are SCREWED. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tantangel Posted May 1, 2007 Report Share Posted May 1, 2007 Hence the reason why I said nearly. Yes, even the best make mistakes. Thing is, I played a Healer and I had 11 or 12 deaths. I know 7 were from mobs, 3 were from pre-50. One I was killed in Gear by a mob and Syndicate got me while naked and one was a combo of L-A and Spiegle I think. I know L-A for sure, but it was when I lost the standard due to lagging so bad to the point I kept getting disconnected and they were using farely good tactics to take it. When I went to retrieve I was lag free, they definatley outskilled me by protecting it, no matter how you look at it. It's those kinds of situations where a Healer can become nearly unstoppable that it takes two people to kill them. I recall one time being told by someone that there was no way a Cleric could take down a Healer and the person was wearing a LOT of armor that's hard to get. Either he didn't experiment enough or just outright didn't want to risk losing his uber armor, I found out that it is possible to do so with what the Cleric skill set and spell set consists of. But it does depend on the player who plays too. Just because one person can easily take on groups doesn't mean someone else having the same class can do the same thing. Before I even tried a Healer some people said they're basically meat. Yeah, pre-50 they're meat because they don't have all their spells yet. At 50 is another story as well as who's behind the character. Any class can become almost unstoppable, it just takes the right person with the right class to take them down. Oh forgot that Vanicus assassinated me at least once. He assassinated a couple of my characters, but I can't recall how many times he got me on my Healer. Was I drinking tea or having a tea party? No, but I wasn't moving either. Then again this was after I quit Savant and decided to go Knight upon my return and at least show a mediocre standing as compared to some of the other Healers they inducted. I'm not going to say I'm the best at them, but I definately used their full skill/spell set to my advantage if it came down to staying alive or dying. I never saw other Healers really do what I did and it's probably why after a while the only people coming for me were Syndicate. And the trick Messalantha pulled on me one day was mean as hell, but it still didn't work. Vanicus sure did, but Messalantha and Olom never did the trick. Could I do that with any other class? Not nearly as easy as I can a Healer, but I can at least come close. Same with anyone though. They can be nearly unstoppable with a class and completely horrible with the rest of them. Then you have your well rounded players who can play everything farely well. But as I originally put it, I did say nearly, not just that they are unstoppable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evangelion Posted May 2, 2007 Report Share Posted May 2, 2007 Seriously. If you're not unstoppable as a Healer, particularly with certain cabal/subcabal selections, you're doing something seriously wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L-A Posted May 3, 2007 Report Share Posted May 3, 2007 I remeber doing that - even though we were co-ordinating to attack you and knew what skills to use it took two of us (me as WM Leader and experienced healer killer :-P) three or four goes to pin you down. A lot of that is that you knew what to do with your class - and the healer class is designed to not die. I honestly don't see how you could die to a healer unless you d/c in the middle of the fight or are playing from dial up. The only spell an aggro healer has is dispel evil?? Divine retrib (unless its been changed) it not useful for running people down - it is useful for getting healers to run down their mana if they keep chasing you though :-D The class I had the easiet time killing healers with was dark knight with berserker coming a close second. Cheers, L-A Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chromatic Posted May 3, 2007 Report Share Posted May 3, 2007 Blademasters aren't bad, either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raargant Posted May 3, 2007 Report Share Posted May 3, 2007 I remeber doing that - even though we were co-ordinating to attack you and knew what skills to use it took two of us (me as WM Leader and experienced healer killer :-P) three or four goes to pin you down. A lot of that is that you knew what to do with your class - and the healer class is designed to not die. I honestly don't see how you could die to a healer unless you d/c in the middle of the fight or are playing from dial up. The only spell an aggro healer has is dispel evil?? Divine retrib (unless its been changed) it not useful for running people down - it is useful for getting healers to run down their mana if they keep chasing you though :-D The class I had the easiet time killing healers with was dark knight with berserker coming a close second. Cheers, L-A No way. Invoker, hands down. Healer has nothing on him at all, period. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evangelion Posted May 3, 2007 Report Share Posted May 3, 2007 Yes, but the invoker has no way to keep the healer in combat, and anyone with a hint of intelligence isn't going to stick around while getting their *** pounded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tantangel Posted May 3, 2007 Report Share Posted May 3, 2007 I remeber doing that - even though we were co-ordinating to attack you and knew what skills to use it took two of us (me as WM Leader and experienced healer killer :-P) three or four goes to pin you down. A lot of that is that you knew what to do with your class - and the healer class is designed to not die. I honestly don't see how you could die to a healer unless you d/c in the middle of the fight or are playing from dial up. The only spell an aggro healer has is dispel evil?? Divine retrib (unless its been changed) it not useful for running people down - it is useful for getting healers to run down their mana if they keep chasing you though :-D The class I had the easiet time killing healers with was dark knight with berserker coming a close second. Cheers, L-A That was probably hands down my favorite PK battle out of any of the ones I had. Yeah, Healers are definately easier to survive with when the changes came out for them, it helped immensely with survival. I never seemed to have a real problem with DKs, Berserkers were kind of a pain and because of my race Blademasters usually chose it as an anatomy so they were a pain, but they're only a pain to Healers who are the same race anatomy they choose. If anything else it's not exactly easy to kill them anymore. Invokers are probably the worst if you don't have the saves. I had the saves and all my armor had that extra nifty tag so that they couldn't kill my armor if they wanted to. Had a bad run in with one who did and I got smart and found a way they couldn't anymore. Other than that though, L-A has it pretty much right with the two classes. They can get a Healer (as long as it's someone who knows what they're doing) most of the time and in any situation. The other classes it really depends on whether or not the saves or the right race. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raargant Posted May 3, 2007 Report Share Posted May 3, 2007 Yes' date=' but the invoker has no way to keep the healer in combat, and anyone with a hint of intelligence isn't going to stick around while getting their *** pounded.[/quote'] No one, for all practical purposes, has a way to keep any prot. shield class in combat, period. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zrothum Posted May 3, 2007 Report Share Posted May 3, 2007 Monks and zerks have practical applications for prot. shields Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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