Sirax Posted February 6, 2006 Report Share Posted February 6, 2006 Is there any real point of having them, they take up a big portion of space when you have to have other slots, ie weapons armor recall flight etc then when it comes to needing them they never seem to work, or they succed very marginally. I got blinded today and five gyvels later still blinded and I could not reach the other gyvels in my backpack, Very frustrating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted February 6, 2006 Report Share Posted February 6, 2006 Are they not successful because you're fighting, and spilling them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mudder Posted February 6, 2006 Report Share Posted February 6, 2006 You need to carry about 7 or 8 of them in your inventory at all times. I carry 8, but I don't play Giants either so that low dex has to hurt your ability to carry stuff. 8 gyvels in your inventory usually cures about 2 blinds, but there are always those circumstances where it doesn't. After you use about 4 gyvels from your inventory take 4 more out of your backpack. (If your in the middle of a fight) Otherwise be sure to always carry 8. Some people, Shamans mostly, you will have a HELL of a time trying to cure blindness. Mostly because they have awesome EQ and cast it at a higher level than themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jb5679 Posted February 6, 2006 Report Share Posted February 6, 2006 He's probably talking about the success rate to cure a blindness spell at pinnacle rank....which I agree, they have a fairly low success rate, which is of course due to the rank of cure blindness cast by the potions... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dizz Posted February 7, 2006 Report Share Posted February 7, 2006 I don't bother... by the time I can stop running long enough to quaff it, I'm dead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balinor Posted February 7, 2006 Report Share Posted February 7, 2006 I carry 5 gyvels/red potions at any given time on a non-cure-blindness class. When I know I'm going to be fighting a shaman, ninja, thief, etc., I pull out all the stops, and fill my inventory with as many as I can. With the exception of shamans, I rarely have to pull more out, since they cure in the first three or so, and ninja/thief battles are fairly quick. Anyway, point is, carrying five in your inventory and between 20 and 30 in your bag has always been sufficient for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tantangel Posted February 7, 2006 Report Share Posted February 7, 2006 Do what I do. If you know there isn't anyone in your PK range that can blind you, why bother carrying gyvel's/red's, right? The ONLY time I ever carry things like that out of my backpack/sack is when I know there's a chance I'll have someone come into the area and blind me while trying to PK me. Shamans and Necros are about the only time I ever need them in my inventory, as other classes that can blind I usually don't run into all that often. When I do though, I usually pull out about 8 to cure, plus knowing exactly where you are helps as well. You can at least run blind to a templed so that you can cure your blind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kahlos Posted July 30, 2007 Report Share Posted July 30, 2007 I always carry 4 at least regardless of who's in my PK range. If you see a shaman around, or if you're thinking of fighting against a ninja, bmage, and so on, carry as much as you can. Don't use red potions, they are useless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L-A Posted July 30, 2007 Report Share Posted July 30, 2007 I use gyvels/red interchangably. I carry 6 reds/gyvels in my inventory at all times - you never know when you are going to need them. I've never had an issue curing blinds even if it does take a few quaffs. In my sack, I have at least 20 more. 30 is better. I take them out as I use them. Cheers, L-A Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malchaeius Posted July 30, 2007 Report Share Posted July 30, 2007 If you do not think that gyvels are necessary, or that they do not work, you can always choose not to carry them in favor of those things that you mentioned. However, I can assure you that they are your best option outside of temple healers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown Criminal Posted July 30, 2007 Report Share Posted July 30, 2007 Also, if every gyvel cured blindness on the first try it would put too much of a damper on shaman/necro's who spend the time trying to cast it through peoples saves. Imadging finally landing a blind after 7 casts only to have someone quaff a potion and negate your work... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iyorvin Posted July 30, 2007 Report Share Posted July 30, 2007 Pfff.......don't use gyvels or reds. Pro's pwn them all before you can be blinded. I stopped using all consumables a long time ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pali Posted July 30, 2007 Report Share Posted July 30, 2007 That's why Iyorvin isn't a pro. ^_~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mindflayer Posted July 30, 2007 Report Share Posted July 30, 2007 Pfff.......don't use gyvels or reds. Pro's pwn them all before you can be blinded. I stopped using all consumables a long time ago. And he's a barbarian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aulian Posted July 30, 2007 Report Share Posted July 30, 2007 I agree again.. Best advice? Learn to run BLIND. If you can run blind, no one has a thing on you, being able to run from the shadow grove to the halfling temple healer has its merits let me tell you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H&R Posted July 30, 2007 Report Share Posted July 30, 2007 I agree again.. Best advice? Learn to run BLIND. If you can run blind, no one has a thing on you, being able to run from the shadow grove to the halfling temple healer has its merits let me tell you summon and thunderclap are your worst enemies then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Implementor Anume Posted July 30, 2007 Implementor Report Share Posted July 30, 2007 You know that different classes cast at different levels. If you are going to fight something with a very high level blindness spell (even worse if they have certain armor) carry as much gyvels as you can. There is also a teleport out there that is glowing, helpful if ALL fail. Regardless of whom you plan to fight you should carry a few outside at all times, depending on your class/race 3 - 5 I'd say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sarduarkar Posted July 30, 2007 Report Share Posted July 30, 2007 Pfff.......don't use gyvels or reds. Pro's pwn them all before you can be blinded. I stopped using all consumables a long time ago. Seconded. No need to carry consumables (especially heavy potions like gyvels). Trust me... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ex-D&Der Posted July 30, 2007 Report Share Posted July 30, 2007 I do the same as LA (6) except that I prefer gyvels if I can, and I never have that many in my sack, though I would like to. It also depends on what race you are as if you are a small race you need a weight-reducing sack and it doesn't hold as many items. It seems to me you are a taking a terrible risk whenever you don't have some of these in your inventory, whether you think there is someone about who can blind you or not. The main limitation of these is someone can just keep casting blind on you until you run out, which is basically good enough to kill many classes. For this reason I would suggest restoring the level of the reds to whatever it was before they were nerfed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mya Posted July 30, 2007 Report Share Posted July 30, 2007 I dont get you, i normaly cure mine with 1 or 2 Gyvels. 3 is the odd exception. :confused: If you dont like Blind, get some saves. You know its not that hard to get 50 mal saves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kahlos Posted July 31, 2007 Report Share Posted July 31, 2007 Hey I didn't know Sard was around. I still have Covus' head on my backpack.. lol. *Runs away and stocks up gyvel potions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sarduarkar Posted July 31, 2007 Report Share Posted July 31, 2007 Hehe, I didn't play Covus. Although, I did play Tessa / Zoqiut during his time before taking another break. Doesn't seem like I'll get a chance to roll up a new char anytime soon. I am switching jobs in a month's time. Until then, I'm just casually browsing the forums and randomly logging on old chars just to kill time. I can't wait till this month is over... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kahlos Posted August 1, 2007 Report Share Posted August 1, 2007 Oh okay my bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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