Fighting Battlemages. :(

[goldbond]

have you made and tested this kind of monk against them?

[Tom]

There I cannot help you. I have the passon for monks, but not the attention span, and certainly not the familiarity with equipment such an endeavor would require. However, I like to think myself familiar enough with the class through my own trifling use (and my quasi-quixotic search for PK logs to break down) to take their side.

[Tantangel]

I could see it happening, but more so if the BMG were lagging on their end and the Monk be perfectly fine on his end. Otherwise the BMG would just flee out and put reflective shield back up while the monk would barely be able to put chii up and store it once, where as you need chii 2 to get the magical hands and chii bolt 3 I believe to have it dispel shields. Not enough time I would think unless like I said the BMG were lagging.

[Chief]

The only way a battlemage can do massacres through sanc is either against an ogre, or with sear.

Dancing a certain polearm or sword has done massacres to me many times with sanctuary and my ac was -400 or better.

[Tom]

The bmg would probably stop to put up all threeish spells that collapsed, and even if they didn't, there's nothing to keep monk in that area while bmg is reupping. It turns the exchange into a question of running/chasing skill, which are universally important anyhow.

I don't have a lot of hard data, but suitable rhetoric can take the place of facts every time.

[goldbond]

maybe tiger stance, kick him for the blood loss after you bolt his shield(s), and i guess just dance around a lot trying not to engage and hope his spell upkeep takes the toll you need to go in and start hurting? idk

[corpsestomp]

The battlemage can easily get his regen back up with slow. A slowed bmg is never going to run out of mana. And if he wants to chase, just put haste on, to cancel slow, and go after them.

[Tom]

I'd use crane against non-undead, and pump eq slots into hitdam.

[Tantangel]

Well, there is the off chance that the Monk dispels the BMGs air shield and the Monk will air thrash and trip the person to death. BMG wouldn't really have a chance to flee and put it back up and he wouldn't have a reflective shield either since it would've probably been dispelled along with the air shield. So I suppose I could see that happening as well.

[goldbond]

well not sleeping, maybe trying to engage long enough for a kick again and a renewed blood loss, will eventually drop some spells even when he's slowed, a battlemage cant keep some spells up forever can he? then again i guess the monk wont live actually trying to engage and kick a second time anyway.

[Tom]

I apologize for hijacking this thread monkwise; the fellow never said he was a monk. However, I would assume he is, considering the relative plenty of the other melee classes.

[Raargant]

A bmg dancing an axe can cast no spells in combat and still have the upper hand on a monk. Bmg is one of the few classes that doesn't really need to worry about laglock.

[goldbond]

they're conspicuously buff. unless you're a thief/ninja bj/strangle poison/gag pry/other stuff, or a shaman, what are you going to do? and especially as a typical melee. nothing. they dont care about lag, and unless you're wearing poison bracer things and wielding various other prog weapons and armor you're toast. gimp them now!

[Iyorvin]

Lol. What about buddha kick? Relatively safe as a monk, due to hard dispel, hard blind, and no lag.

[Chief]

Don't forget Battlemages are extremely weak to high damaging area attacks, E.g Icestorm, Call lightning and rangers and druid's Thunderstorm. esp call lightning and thunderstorm because of thier juicy AC.

[Evangelion]

I had VERY few problems with invokers when playing my battlemage. Mana lock and a nice, mundane axe or polearm makes short work of them.

[Iyorvin]

I had VERY few problems with invokers when playing my battlemage. Mana lock and a nice' date=' mundane axe or polearm makes short work of them.[/quote']

You're silly.

[kahlos]

I don't play a monk!

[Evangelion]

You're all set then.

[Ajindaar]

I had VERY few problems with invokers when playing my battlemage. Mana lock and a nice' date=' mundane axe or polearm makes short work of them.[/quote']

Sure, a BMG can dish out a hell of a lot of damage. But, having been playing several Invokers, I have to say that I had very few problems fighting BMGs. Just keep the battle short and painful, hit-and-run if you have to. get all corpse.

[WagesofSin]

I found Invoker vs BMG to be easy as hell! Just Call lightning and watch as his armor arcs and does insane damage, not to mention with a fully charged staff you can cast it almost every round!

[Aulian]

lol its all in player vs player, a smart bmag will not fight in those conditions..

As for a ninja, you will want to assassinate if you can, for a thief gag is the most reliable way. And believe me, a decked ranger can bring the hurting to a battlemage..

[Psycho Child]

Bah take him down with a bard. Knockout, weaken, knockout his pets, wake with fourseasons, hit an uppercut, follow with magic missiles till dead.

[TheNewGuy]

Bah take him down with a bard. Knockout' date=' weaken, knockout his pets, wake with fourseasons, hit an uppercut, follow with magic missiles till dead.[/quote']

Versus what? And knockout aint very reliable in making ppl sleep.

[Psycho Child]

versus battlemage. And if you master knockout, (and do all the little things to make it work better) its reliable enough. I never had a problem with it.