one think i can agree with is that it sucks when you app for a combo that is not normally allowed and lose stuff when you would have been weaker than a demon/undead/lich/crusader/avatar without losing anything already.
A lot of work goes into getting the characters re-strung. How come we don't balance demons(and the other qraces) with the rest of the races then... That might present the argument of why would you app for a demon that is not any stronger, but then again why should people go through just as much effort just to lose skills/spells for a non typical race/class.
If fire giant dk is weaker than demon dk already then why gimp it (this is asuming it was)
If a midget wants to be a pro basketball player, he loses alot of ability just by choosing basketball. If a computer programmer wants to be a weightlifter, he has been gimped. There are a million reasons why you would recieve gimpage. I think a fire giant cleave with inferno, or fire lance would probably one hit kill any non countering feral. Some things you just should not be able to easily do like that. Other things: Fire giants should not be allowed in savant at all. fire giants might want knoledge (
) but at the end of the day so does everyone in special ed. They just do not have the capacity. Why can elves, and humans, both be mages, but half elves cannot. Why can half elves be neutral, but not neutral monks.
Demons, undead, avatars require alot of work to get. Yes they might be scary, but the people playing successful qraces are usually just as scary with the base class. Think if Tassin,or Despiser, had done a demon DK? Think about
what would happen if Mindflayer made an undead thief? Or if Behrens had made a base race that was more powerful than human. or if Iyorvin had been a drow. You can go back and see that people who get ultra qraces/classes and are not stronger players die out fast. The reason Philly is scary? Toten has played 4-5? vamps BEFORE philly. So they have been sharpened. If you gave me a vamp, I would PROBABLY get steamrolled. I have seen philly kill 3 people back to back to back, I have seen another decked vamp get rocked by a halfling thief, and another elder reaver get rocked by a dwarf bard. It is not the class that has power, it is not the armor that has power. It is the player. A strong player is going to dominate, good gear, bad gear, or mediocre. These are the same people who can do amazing with a squid necro, but also do just as good with an avian necro. It will never be about your combo, it will be about your talent as a player, and your focus on what your doing. Not long ago i spent 2 hours fighting ONE paladin. One. The reason it was so drawn out is I had no advantages over him, and vica versa. We relied 100% on our tactics, and abilities as players, not armor, to PK with. It resulted in a back, and forth stalemate.
I guess this drawn out post could have been been said like this: You can roll OP combos, you can make OP races. But if you as a player are not a performance player, you just are not going to do anything that can be taken as OP.
