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lol i RPed with him as liandra. but yeah he probably is. cause that was weeeeeks ago. almost a month. if he's still level 3.. im pretty sure its safe to say he is.

Anyone remember the old WHO list on the old website ?

Not a problem for me.

that was removed for the reason of people using it to plan log ins.

Newbies suck. Completely. I usually full-loot if it's a hard battle, but if they're really obviously new, why give them the chance to get the upper hand? We may as well just full-loot them so that they learn their place, seeing as FL is all about having the veteran mindset above all.

If you put up a good fight, I'll leave a few things so that we can tumble again. If you lose badly I'll full loot because The Forsaken Lands is meant only for people who kill their own food (IRL) and make a living as either lumberjacks, firemen or in the military.

Dey

Newbies suck. Completely. I usually full-loot if it's a hard battle, but if they're really obviously new, why give them the chance to get the upper hand? We may as well just full-loot them so that they learn their place, seeing as FL is all about having the veteran mindset above all.

If you put up a good fight, I'll leave a few things so that we can tumble again. If you lose badly I'll full loot because The Forsaken Lands is meant only for people who kill their own food (IRL) and make a living as either lumberjacks, firemen or in the military.

Dey

How about those of us who write Emma Watson Fanfiction? Some of our best sellers are Lumberjacks, Firemen, and Service Members. There is this new one where she fights Monthra before heading to Catholic school for a- well, you'll have to read it.

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I have Emma Watson tied up in my closet and drag her out when she is required, I never full loot, I'll take gold 100% of the time.

5 minute logout timer should be extend to 15 minimum.

Let's face it, who decides to play FL for 5 minutes?

The system allows for people to log in and quickly decide if they like what they see or not, or log some lowbie with detect invis or detect hidden or keen sight, and see what char they wanna play.

Lame if you ask me.

Let's face it' date=' who decides to play FL for 5 minutes?[/quote']

I have.

Log on a level 43 and see a crapton of 50s in your range that want you dead? I'm going to log off, because I'm not going to be able to get any guild quests done while I'm being hunted, I'm not going to have much of a chance to stand up against my opponents, and frankly I'm just not going to have much fun.

I've also logged on, seen some people on, and decided to log on another character instead because of the greater RP/PK/ranking opportunities for that other character because of who is online. It's nice to be able to do this somewhat quickly, as those opportunities can disappear fast.

Your honesty is comendable Pali, cuz we all do what you just said, despite it being borderline against the rules, if not flat out rule breaking.

It's one thing to have a lowbie that you log on just to check "who" with. It's another thing entirely to log on a char intending to play it, see who is on, and decide that you'll have more fun playing a different char at the time.

Your honesty is comendable Pali' date=' cuz we all do what you just said, despite it being borderline against the rules, if not flat out rule breaking.[/quote']

How is that at all against the rules? Even a little? At all? If it is, I'm done with this game right now for good...

The game is about being social, there is no social interaction with a level 18 warrior and a level 50 invoker past, "Uh, yo." A level 50 Dark Knight can have more successful and more fufilling interactions with a 50 invoker.

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Logging a lowbie to see who is online and then using that info to determine what char to log next is illegal right? Ok.

So how is it any different if you log a char with the intention to play, but after considering the who list, you alt to the character that will be more enjoyable for you at that moment? Whether your pleasure is to even out a cabal war. or to form a massive group and go to gear, its still in a sense cheating the system.

Ultimately I don't see much of a difference in either case. I think that when you enter your name at login, it is because you want to play that character, not because you want to see who is on and then decide what to play.

RE: AG

You have been saying a lot lately that you are not in this for eq or pk, but for RP and amusement, so what difference does it make to you what range of people are on? If you log in to RP, what on the who list could possibly stop you?

i think my brain needs to take a forum break -.-

Logging a lowbie to see who is online and then using that info to determine what char to log next is illegal right? Ok.

So how is it any different if you log a char with the intention to play, but after considering the who list, you alt to the character that will be more enjoyable for you at that moment? Whether your pleasure is to even out a cabal war. or to form a massive group and go to gear, its still in a sense cheating the system.

Ultimately I don't see much of a difference in either case. I think that when you enter your name at login, it is because you want to play that character, not because you want to see who is on and then decide what to play.

The difference lies in the pattern of behavior, not the specific instance, which makes it very hard to monitor in most cases. I may decide to log another char on based on who I see online after logon, but that doesn't happen regularly, and it also doesn't involve any chars that are rank-sitting below the PK barrier (which also are the only chars who don't have to wait to log off, which is why they're so easy to check who with). When it becomes noticed that a lowbie char tends to pop on and off quickly with some regularity and that char doesn't rank, it's pretty obvious what they're doing - checking who and deciding whether or not to log in someone else. But if you're actually playing both characters, I see nothing wrong with deciding to switch from one to the other because you see someone you want to interact with on.

RE: AG

You have been saying a lot lately that you are not in this for eq or pk, but for RP and amusement, so what difference does it make to you what range of people are on? If you log in to RP, what on the who list could possibly stop you?

Perhaps there are chars or imms on that are directly involved with his other char's RP and he wants to develop it more and the char he's currently on isn't really doing anything important at the time? I've logged off a lowbie I was training/ranking plenty of times to bring on a pinn just to talk to someone I saw on.

RE: AG

You have been saying a lot lately that you are not in this for eq or pk, but for RP and amusement, so what difference does it make to you what range of people are on? If you log in to RP, what on the who list could possibly stop you?

I usually love your posts. What difference does it make to me what range of people are on? Yeah... I'd rather no one played so I could be alone when I signed on, no one to rank with (everyone else complaint, I like ranking alone), no one to RP with, no one to pk.

Or, to lessen the extremes...

Maybe I'd just like this game to survive.

And I know for a fact level 50's have a drastically lower rate of talking to people at lower levels... the only time someone from Pinn has ever started a chat with me was vaguely based in RP (I have no problem, they started, I primed it into going on and on)... and it was always Justices telling me to sheath or asking if I had seen a hidden/invis ninja/thief running about.

Now, I have RPed with many pinns... but only when I started. Most of my efforts go ignored. Why? I don't think they're ignoring me simple because I'm below 30... but if there are five pinns on, one is a warmaster, two are savant, and the other two are knights hunting Scorvale.... why would they want to take time out to chat with me? I guess I could go talk to the two monks and one blademaster training skills, the plethora of Berserkers currently spamming "weaponcleave", or the Fire Giant Cleric spamming spells to stop blowing mana. (You've gotta admit, it is exhilerating to have short lines of, "Me cast spell on me." and "Me not like no mana." between lines of 10 x co 'sanc')

If I had a level 50 I could sign on him to chat with the others. If I did it to avoid losing my shines with my level 25 whatever, or signed on my level 25 whatever to see if I could safely log in my 50... then I was being a dick, breaking rules, whatever you want to call it. But if I did it to have a social time, got myself into a social situation where more people could kill me/talk to me/change my life/me change there, then what rules did I break? I'm perpetuating the cycle of rares (probably mine), increasing RP at the higher ranks, and increasing chances of Pinns RPing with lower levels (Pinns without the "Herald" or "Academy" banners, I love these guys, but their RP is usually teh same- stellar, but the same nurturing motherly type.)

So, is that the answer to why it is big enough a difference to me?

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