It's evident ALOT of people HIGHLY underestimate Lotus Scourge...
Ninjitsu idea.
what about giving them blur?
I like the idea.Swinging right through their blurred image!
someone might have said it already but i'm too lazy to re-read the thread
The big problem here comes from the fact that giving ninjas more melee
defences will lead to unbalances when it comes to other rogues - thieves.
Caltraps should be made useful again and they should gain back doublesheat.
We can split them in two paths, lets call them ROGUE and ASSASSIN for example.
When you choose rogue you get camouflege and keen sight skills.
When you choose assassin you get assassinate.
This will be your MAJOR lore. Your minor lore you can choose from the following:
ROGUE:
Lotus scourge - should land 100% of the time on victims that are already
poisoned.
Collateral shadowstrike - Increased damaged (DISMEMBER/MASSACRE without sanc) +
random stat decrease with cap of all stats at -5.
Surgery shadowstrike - Lower damage (MUTILATE without sanc) + a stat of
your choice with a cap of -8. You can choose a primary + secondary stat. When
you decrease his primary stat by -8 you start hitting his secondary stat.
ASSASSIN:
First - trying to assassinating someone who is awake should have it's chance
reduced twice.
Falcon eye: just as it is at the moment but you lose ALL your study if someone
engages you.
Death kiss: Your assassinate will land 100% of the time no matter how naked
you are and how decked your opponent is, considering you have fully studied him
and he is asleep.
Dummy: You study via being in combat. Of course you also don't lose what you've
meditated upon when engaged.
Second chance: Ability to cancel unsuccessful assassinate (death kiss atm).
...it's rogue, man, not rouge. Rouge is a style of makeup (I look this up quick hoping it'll be something funny, and instead it's just depressing to have it associated with ninjas...).
The worst part is that you spelled it right the first time, but not the subsequent ones.
Haha Rouge
It's alright, even I make mistakes sometimes 
What about the idea noob dudes?
saw nothing with double sheath- : /
and just throwing this out there- How does bard get number 1 throw damage when they are suppose to be the jack of all trades- but the master of none? hmmmmmmm. Think i found a hole somewhere lol.
Sounds good foxx- the shadow arts idea is amped- which in nice.
But losing FULL STUDY when attacked? even if you meditated?
I dunno about that-
and just throwing this out there- How does bard get number 1 throw damage when they are suppose to be the jack of all trades- but the master of none? hmmmmmmm. Think i found a hole somewhere lol.
Cause there are so many cards in a deck. ;)JK But probably because they lost eyegouge.
saw nothing with double sheath- : /
*"Caltraps should be made useful again *and they should gain back doublesheat."
and just throwing this out there- How does bard get number 1 throw damage when they are suppose to be the jack of all trades- but the master of none? hmmmmmmm. Think i found a hole somewhere lol.
In the past, ninjas would get doublesheat without being a ninjitsu. Having doublesheat is a huge advantage when you have throw. Due to having doublesheat the thief and ninja throw was nerfed. Later though, ninjas lost doublesheat. So they took two blows when it should have been one - they not only have a nerfed throw but they don't even get doublesheat anymore (unless a ninjitsu).
Ninjas have been needing a rework for a long time, just as a few other classes.
Indeed, i wonder if this is catchin any imm's attention.
Ninja HUG Jutsu!
I like some of your ideas foxx.
At the same time I was thinking maybe we could make study more useful. At the moment it is only used to increase your assassinate chance, correct? What about if we made it different for both of these paths.
Rogue: Study wouldn't work in the same way if you were an assassin. When a rogue type ninja studies a character it helps him in combat against that particular character. Somehow it could give him an edge in combat over this particular character since he has taken the time to study weaknesses.
Assassin: Obviously study would work as it works now for the assassin path.
Good idea, I was thinking about that as well, how exactly should it help though?
And don't you think that rouge ninjas would get enough advantages already? I mean, each of the suggested ninjitsus is quite nice and if they get their doublesheat back they can become scary melees again.
I've been thinking more an more about a magical ninja-
That would be a selectable MAJOR ninjitsu- that would pertain to the 5 elements. Wind, Earth, Fire, Water, and Electricity. However, If playing a Goodie- there would be a light path, and For evils Shadow Manipulation.
Someone else came in talking about subterfuge, and i think i read another talking about enhancing weapons short term.
These are all good ideas, But im thinking about jutsu's and still just thinking about base concept. Thing im just going to focus on this one. and submit it later-
GO TEAM NINJA!
Saw Kyzarious and Anume's post recently and hoped that this thread was considered along with a change Anume hinted at recently. There are some extremely good ideas in here. 
Bump.
Shh, I just re-posted my idea and you bump this 
I just bumped these discussions here and my old ones in the prayer forum. Been suggesting changes for years, maybe with enough of us banding together...well you know
Yeah, I know, I just think it's easier to start a new discussion altogether than bumping an old thread that's 10 pages long