pugil question

Wielding a staff you Lose 2 attacks, and Bonus damage from 2handed.

Halfling vs Fire Giant, I think you can figure this one out alone.

IMHO a halfling must use a staff in this situation. Bash damage is easily offset when setup right - a fg warrior should never win on an attempted bash lock vs a halfling provided you are correctly setup for the fight. The catch is if you are not probably setup you will have a VERY hard time vs the fire giant.

TBH, I would say 100% of the time (on a warrior/ranger) a staff is superior to shield/weapon (even shield/whip vs a zerk). The reason isn't in the attacks you do or do not get - its in what you give up to use a shield.

My latest lvl 50 was a warrior (non-giant) so I ended up finding creative ways of exploting people even when lag locks were employed against me. The biggest downside of a non-giant warrior (I found) was that giants would atttempt lag lock and run away when it didn't work. I had to be VERY fast to get on them - and I don't always possess that speed. Correct eq setup certainly even allowed me to overcome (mostly) hit/dam bonuses ogres and giants had.

L-A

Wielding a staff you Lose 2 attacks, and Bonus damage from 2handed.

Halfling vs Fire Giant, I think you can figure this one out alone.

Mya, your comment was after my post that two handed is one of the most reliable defences, NO MATTER A HALFLING OR A FG WIELDS IT. And thats true.

Also, wielding a staff you GAIN two attacks compared to wielding a weapon + shield and you don't lose the two handed bonus since staffs are two handed.

Sometimes I really fail to understand you. Your logic seems lost somewhere in the translation.

Next time you play a Warrior try to run around with two Demon Talismans on your neck. HINT HINT

And remember, all weapon defenses are dependent of your weapons Knowledge.

Next time you play a Warrior try to run around with two Demon Talismans on your neck. HINT HINT

And remember, all weapon defenses are dependent of your weapons Knowledge.

I think you are very wrong in this Mya. Use the staff - its superior to the shield unless you don't have the hitroll to compete. Even then, use the staff as you lose something else (not based on hitroll) to deal damage which you sorely need in teh case of a halfing vs an attempted bash lock.

The only advantage I see here is not in str (which is what I assuem you allude to with teh demon talismans?). Its the giants 103% in two handed - while it provdies 1-2% (assuming not fire weapons) I don't think its going to be a huge deciding factor in a halfer warrior vs fg warrior battle. Using a shield is going to make it VERY hard to kill that giant off.

L-A

I've played my share of halfling warriors (.. one actually) and it was against Nortak at the time. Although he nearly bash locked me everytime I fought him, he was never able to get the bash lock. I ALWAYS wielded a staff. If I wore anything else, it was downhill for me.. and yes, I tried weapon+shield. Staff is always superior if you really need all that defense and a little offense.

I actually almost got Nortak once Trip lock is insane when you catch someone without sanc.. but too bad there's no such thing as a trip lock to someone who's put absolutely no commands in their buffer while fighting me, except flee

Like LA was hinting at, a warrior using shield block gives up fired weapons, which isn't worth any lore or benefit that a shield gives you---except maybe against haymaker. MAYBE.

The reason you seem to parry better with two-handed weapons is because they are generally heavier than one-handed ones. Wielding a heavy, blessed one-handed weapon with no dual weapon and standing on stable terrain is the best for hitting with that weapon and the best for normal parry, but you give up two-handed and dual parry. Use double grip and you have a super parry plus two handed...that is the real power of double grip. If you dual wield, your ability to hit and parry goes down with the primary weapon.

You can easily test this at low ranks. Rank a warrior up as normal. As soon as you get dual wield, practice it, and notice that your primary attacks hits less often, weaker, and you can't parry as well suddenly.

As for having the correct eq setup...if the giant and the halfling warrior both have the correct setup, the halfling loses. It is only when the halfling has a decidedly BETTER setup than the giant that the halfling can compete--even then that is not always the case.

Comparing two-handed vs shield block...normally they are exactly the same. It is when you get blind, move from a city square, or otherwise are disadvantaged that shield block becomes more consistent.

While a 3% prof bonus might not seem like much, you have to remember to calculate it as not only a defense bonus, but also as an increased knowledge of their weapon. A small disadvantage for using a staff against a giant.

Now you can begin to understand why certain chars always seem to hit you much harder and much more often than other chars with a similar build.

Hehe. It's hard to outmelee a fg wielding the nexus staff I remember a halfling warrior avatar that did well, but that wasn't you, was it? Think it was Goomf that played him. I was so buff with Nortak when wielding the nexus staff. I remember once killing two warmasters that were grouped and also killing an ally thief in the process, barely getting a scratch myself. Remember Leymore, the buff crusader knight elder? He was outmeleed.

A warrior with a staff is the king of melee

A warrior with a staff is the king of melee

Pfff...

A warrior with a staff is the king of melee

Unless he is a half-elf going for crusader finding himself contually pwned by a massive demon DK. Heh.

Pfff...

http://forum.theforsakenlands.org/showthread.php?t=18907

Yes. Pffff.

Lol....

haha

You should also not forget that I have a log of two rounding the said warrior who was again wielding a staff

He tricked me first time, so it doesn't really count