Locked Danpher Halfling Thief WARMASTER vs Meliael Avian Psi WATCHER

6 hours ago, Lloth said:

This is the last reminder on any anonymous allowing thread for at least 2 months.

DO NOT POST AS ANONYMOUS WITHOUT BOTH BEING ONE OF THE FIGHTERS OR POSTING YOUR CHARACTER NAME

If it continues to happen, bans will be issued. We should not have to say this every other thread.

Ahh technology, a place where the 'post as anon' and 'notify of replies' switches are in the exact same spot and are 1/4 of ths size of your pinky fingertip. Heaven forbid someone says something on the internet without a handle attached, no participating unless you can be fingered! Lol

It was meeeeee.... 

Petrify was savable at one point in time. Its always been 'from my knowledge' that if you allow a necro to sleep you, thief to blackjack you,  shaman to spell you up then you deserve to die. And by allowing i mean not having saves or preventative measures in place.

Basically if petrify cannot be prevented then you deserve to have what happens to you while under its influance just for logging on.

Petrify has never been saveable, at least in the last 10 years.  Just like breach, paralyze, unminding, brain death, and disintegrate. 

And it wasnt even used here.  I am so fed up with the contentious witch hunts these logs turn into.  

Meliael.  

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Its not a witch hunt. What it is is realization that the PSI class is overpowered as fuck. If you had used petrify and your abilities without being asked not to, you would have won hands done. Its not an attack on you as a player or on your character. Its just not. Its stating that the class is NOT balanced and I understand that as the player of the class you feel differently, but its obvious. I felt the same way about bards.

Petrify should be preventable with poison. You have the best dispels at your disposal right? Do it like every other class that has sleep abilities.

Its bullshit.  The class isnt overpowered as fuck. 

Half of you commenting dont even know what the abilities do.   Others have recently played this psi class and died horribly. 

You have some preconceived notion and try to force the dialogue to fit it.

I am done discussing it, and will not be commenting furthur on any such discussion.   

And if your answer is to just log off like a bunch of chickens then go for it. 

-Meliael

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Personal experience i wouldn't blow off BOTH foxx and tricks opinion. They have enough experience in the game to make it seem like the holy grail.

Haha I KNEW that untagged anon reply was you UC, I could feel you in the words, tone, and content xD

I don't think Psi as a whole are OP. It depends on the race/path/cabal.

I played 2 dream PSI, one was an Illithid Syndicate and it was very strong, the other was a Gnome Savant and I felt very weak.

I played 1 destruction PSI, I was a Human Watcher (Eventual Leader) and I felt incredibly OP.

Never played the 3rd path so I cannot comment outside fighting them. I only ever fought Meliael and Wyslign (from waaaaay back). It seems like a really strong path with godlike potential in the right cabal and in the right hands.

You need to chill out brother. No one is attacking you. We saw a log of you walking through someone like they weren’t there. Then there’s this log where you didn’t even use your best abilities and STILL almost won.(my fault. On my phone.)

How can you deny it? This is coming from someone that plays bards. The OTHER OP class lol. You didn’t do anything wrong. You ARE doing something wrong by refusing to acknowledge it though. It’s clear as day.

edit: sorry was on my phone

I lost.

Did you even read the log?

I used wish at 35 hp, and ate 14 nymph hearts. 

You people are rediculous.

-Meliael

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I personally think that petrify not checking for saves, with the other abilities of the class from what I have seen is a little overpowered but not to the point where it is just ridiculous. However, just like with Kotrag or a bard played by Trick... not all players are created equal with some classes or even in general. I doubt we would even be having this conversation if Meliael were played by someone else. Just my opinion on the matter.

I’m not hating on melial. I enjoy the character, but I do think melial has done a great job of displaying that particular abilities of the class are a little much. Had he petrified and used his full abilities it would have been over in a heartbeat.

If its always been that way then thats the way it is so enjoy it, laugh at everyone every time your spells land because there is nothing they can do to prevent it :)

But you cant really say its a witch hunt when facts hit the table though.  Like i said about the challenge log it looked like a good fight, however if you bring petrify into the equation i think it would be a one sided mauling. 

The strongest race class cabal combo at any given time will always be under fire.

6 minutes ago, Unknown Criminal said:

The strongest race class cabal combo at any given time will always be under fire.

True, but it is not because of the combo, it is because of the player. There is no objective best combo because of this.

Naturally some combos are still better than others, so when a very good player plays a very good combo then you hear complaints.

4 hours ago, Anonymous said:

Its bullshit.  The class isnt overpowered as fuck. 

Half of you commenting dont even know what the abilities do.   Others have recently played this psi class and died horribly.

Firstly, I know the class perfectly well. I've played it, had around 30-0 PKs, then got bored, because it was shit easy to kill people and all my PKs went the same way. I've probably fought more alteration PSIs than characters you've rolled. I've killed them and died to them. I can prove every single word of mine with logs.

Secondly, the class IS overpowered as fuck. If you think it is not, then ask yourself why vampires and thieves don't have unblockable ecstasy/blackjack.

4 hours ago, Anonymous said:

Petrify has never been saveable, at least in the last 10 years.

You should have figured by now that, just because something has been like that for a very long time does not mean it is not ridiculously broken. As I've stated in my previous post, you haven't seen major backlash from the PB because past administrations have always silenced such discussion due to the class being "quest".

Just look at you comparing disintegrate, breach and unminding to petrify. Those abilities do not come even close to being half as powerful as petrify is. It's just ridiculous of you to compare them and it shows how much YOU don't know about the class (or just how biased you are).

And if you think this is about you, it's not. What I find rather annoying though, is that you personally so vehemently defend it when it's so obvious that the path is broken.

4 hours ago, Anonymous said:

 Others have recently played this psi class and died horribly.

What kind of an argument is that even? I could give Trick my undead demon DK with 4 full malforms and he would still suck with it. Does that mean the class is weak, or the player behind it is bad with the class?

Alll that those big claims  yet you clearly dont know how numbness or iron will work.  Please. 

Let us bow to the almighy foxx. Rofl.

-Meliael

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I wasn't talking about numbness btw ;)

[edit] Btw, you should stop making a fool of yourself. You act like you've never had a strong character before, and now that you've found one you can actually PK with, you are trying to persuade everyone that it's not the combo but your skill.

Chill.

I am sure you are a very capable PKer.

Whoever you are.

I'm going to lock this now. Gone on way too far. I was hoping you guys would grow up and disagree like adults, or turn back to discussion on the log itself. Clearly, that's not happening.