when you type help elf2 there is a section about religion. the first line reads: "Elves are known to be devout worshippers of the various gods of Light as well
as of Yaegar the saint." (yes, worshipers is misspelled, but that's besides the point. 
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since the Drow have Lloth as a religious racial option, why not Yaegar for the elves?
Lolth is well know. Who is Yaegar?
The immortal I blame for hangovers and waking up naked in places I've never been.
Its the liquor god
Lloth was a D&D deity that the Imm's decided to incorporate into FL. before the rp used to bring that about, Lloth didn't exist within Aabahran. Yaeger, though possibly named as a joke, is a product of FL and has been a part of our elven pantheon since Shasarazade was created... even now the Elven Kingdom pays homage to him. shrug
Lloth was a D&D deity that the Imm's decided to incorporate into FL. before the rp used to bring that about' date=' Lloth didn't exist within Aabahran.[/quote']
Firstly, 90% of FL is a copy of D&D with slight changes. I can give you multiple examples, but that's simply not needed. Identify a weapon and you will see the d20 system in play.
Secondly, I am not sure if you lack knowledge or are trying to twist facts, but Lolth has always existed in FL's lore. She was not an "official" deity, until that RP event, and that's just it.
Lastly, a God has a portfolio. Lolth's portfolio is well known - spiders, drow, assassination and things common to all demons (chaos, struggle for power and so on). What is Yeagar's portfolio?
What I am trying to say is, there are dead dieties, why not let Yeagar be one of them? Or even better, take things into your hands and do as Kaylia did. Fashion Yeagar by your own image, RP your a$s off and bring Yeagar to the FL Pantheon. You ever saw Celerity come to the forums and say, "Hey guys, why don't we let drow worship Lolth?".
Why stop at Yeagar?
Dredged up from some archives: The Elven Pantheon
The Elven Pantheon is far from dead. Quite a few players are familiar with it, and use it in RP interactions. Most notably, Yaeson, though I can think of a handful of others that have acknowledged their existence very recently.
What I am trying to say is' date=' there are dead dieties, why not let Yeagar be one of them? Or even better, take things into your hands and do as Kaylia did. Fashion Yeagar by your own image, RP your a$s off and bring Yeagar to the FL Pantheon. You ever saw Celerity come to the forums and say, "Hey guys, why don't we let drow worship Lolth?".[/quote']
I'm not Celerity and I posted my suggestion in the Santa/New Year Morlhach section of the forums, in case you missed it. If you don't like an idea, that's fine... but trying to take jabs at someone that was just making a suggestion they thought, however misguided, would somehow add to FL... seems counterproductive to me. though, I can't say I'm surprised... that's your m.o. which is certainly something I could say I've never seen from Celerity. thanks Celerity, for always keeping it classy. (my apologies for bringing you further into "this")
love it or hate it, the suggestion is out there. like Morl stated, it is at his (Imm's) discretion. I wish everyone, including foxx, a wonderful day/week/month/year/life. later taters, at least until another half-baked foolhardy proposal comes to mind.
but trying to take jabs at someone that was just making a suggestion they thought' date=' however misguided, would somehow add to FL... seems counterproductive to me. though,[b'] I can't say I'm surprised... that's your m.o.
I guess, I am the bad guy again....
Still, you could have answered my questions concerning Yeagar and his portfolio. Coding a religion is more than a name in your score sheet.
You need to create a specific bless for the religion. Also, a specific holy hands and divine intervention for the clerics that pray to the God. A malform specialty for the dark knights (if they are allowed to pray to that God). Just because drows have Lolth is not a good reason enough for the implemention of a new Diety.
And while we are on the subject, I think that cyclops should be able to pray to Dick. Because Dick is an armless, one-eyed God who fought against The Nameless and helped the archmage Amadeus lock him in the pillar of souls.
and away we go
IS F0xx making this up?
Yaeger is a play on the german word Jager, meaning hunter. Fitting considering elves, typical, natural affinity for woods, stealth, and espescially archery. Given their high dex, and typical love of nature, you can see how this word was adapted for the elven pantheon's Saint Yaegar.
Yaeger is a play on the german word Jager, meaning hunter. Fitting considering elves, typical, natural affinity for woods, stealth, and espescially archery. Given their high dex, and typical love of nature, you can see how this word was adapted for the elven pantheon's Saint Yaegar.
Actually, both spellings of worshiper are acceptable. One p is the Americanized form of the word.
which means it is misspelled, Pali. 'cause if it's not 'Merican... 
it was just a comical remark, because I prefer the other spelling. if I had truly thought it was misspelled I would have logged it IG for spelling corrections. I suppose I shouldn't attempt humor through text with strangers... can't seem to convey the right tone to pull it off... and it usually leads away from the topic. shrug thank you for your response.
Honestly, I wasn't certain myself and looked it up simply because you labeled it as misspelled... so it's all your fault. 
The only problem I have with this is that not all of the elven pantheon are actually, well, Gods. Some are just ancient elves. Lloth, for instance, was originally just a plain ol' elf. It wasn't until she left the Elves following a personal/emotional clash and sought out power for revenge (the exact events are undefined, just an adaptation from how the story of Lloth has usually been told/hypothesized in other media) that she ascended to the status of Goddess (although technically she's a Demon, not a Goddess).
These others, aside from most notably Yaegar, do not have such a rich background for which to support a claim for Godhood. From what I've discovered IG about them is more that they were among the first Elves. It's unknown if they still even exist.
Yaegar I could support as a religion, but only if a plot comes about to flesh him out a lot more. Yaeson did a lot of work on that front, but (at least from the outside looking in) it seemed to be shot down or ignored quite a bit.
One could argue that what makes something a god is moreso that it is worshiped as such than the actual attributes of the original being itself. One could further argue that such worship itself could have the effect of creating a god-like entity out of a previously mortal being, in some respects acting as a self-fulfilling prophecy.
Lloth's a demon, but worshiped as a goddess... I say, what's the difference? So long as there are followers, I say let the pantheons explode as they will.
In the lore of D&D, there are cases where demons (or devils) gain a divine portfolio because mortals worship them. There are also cases where Gods sieze to be Gods because they are forgotten and noone worships them anymore.
In Lolth's case, she became a God when she tricked the demigod Selvetarm into killing the God whose portfolio was associated with spiders. She then gained his portfolio and ascended to Godhood.
That being said, I am all for new Gods and religions, as long as they are properly introduced with a corresponding RP.
