Wouldn't that be you?
if you said that in person, i might've smacked you.
Idea to balance the overpowered tribunal
How about we leave them as is and stop moaning and groaning and gripping and bitching about them. Play one and you'll see, or don't play one and don't get on their wrong side. But let the madness stop for ****s sake.
Change council members guards. Adjucators are the criminal hunters, not council members. Who sees Tony Blair out stopping robberies or President Bush on the front-line?
Even the most assertive kings didn't hunt down people unless they were, very, very big fish.
Given a roughly congruent time period, the great leaders were often also the great generals (consider Julius Caesar and William the Conquerer, for example).
And I think Martineius would object to not be considered a very, very big fish. 
Do you all realize if Pominsu went Council, and Martineius went Adjudicator, there'd be a whole lot more bitching? And Pominsu would probably still be alive? Useless info, but nevertheless...
If Martineius WAS an Adjudicator, I have a feeling people would still be asking for a Guard tone down. I have no problem fighting Marti, or any other Adjudicator or Councilman. I seem to do just fine, except for that guard who seems to wail on me from time to time. Think about it. They're all law abiders, and they are all law executioners/enforcers. The Council outlaws people, and the Adjudicator captures them. What if there's only one Council on and no Adjudicators? It's the Council's job to go after said criminals.
When I've seen 3-4 Adjudicators on, and Martineius is on, I see the 3-4 Adjudicators doing the capturing, unless there's a problem, and the 3-4 can't do it, that's when I see Martineius interfere and take care of business. It's always been this way in Justice.
Now that evils are allowed into Tribunal people are moaning, because they have to figure out new ways to beat them. Martineius can be beaten; Sirican kicked him to hell when he caught him unprepared. We all know what PK is, right? Whether you or your opponent is prepared, either of you will get the competitive edge as to whether who was more prepared. PK is not balanced. Skills/spells are. Cabals aren't necessarily balanced and have restrictions as to what they can and cannot do.
I'm kind of tired of the Tribunal whining. :-\
I'm kind of tired of the Tribunal whining. :-\
Amen brother, however the loudest voices are those of the malcontents
To quote one of the best lines Virigoth ever said about people moaning and complaining about something that the staff felt was fine...."This is NOT a democracy."
lol. I don't care about other people's opinions on tribunes. I just dont break the laws, and I'm fine.
Bartodk was in Tribunal, and believe me, they are FAR from overpowered.. Like stated before, if you obey the laws, you won't even have to worry about getting your arse handed to you..
I just think we have a group of players who don't want to be told what they can and can't do personally. That's their right and they're welcome to feel that way, but it doesn't mean anyone else agrees or that it will affect change.
As far as having powers stronger than any other cabal, that's just goofy.
And I think Martineius would object to not be considered a very, very big fish.
I think he meant kings only hunted very, very big fish.
That is what I meant.
Julius Caeser was a very active leader...but when there was a criminal...he sent stooges to catch them.
When the king of the gauls made an uprising, he did it himself.
I can see council members fighting people like watchers/syndicate and stuff alot, but common criminals should be left to adjucators IMHO.
All 50's are the most legendary heros and warriors in the lands. Keep that in mind.
Exactly, but if a Council is chasing some lowbie who didn't sheath all over creation, that's something different.
Agree. Can't argue there.
Yes, but some are certainly more legendary than others.
Elders/Leaders of the cabals are like the REAL big fish, and Watcher/Syndicate is a war, so I would think those are more the Legends among legends.
Sure, all 50s are legends...but if there are ALOT of legends, they aren't all -really- legends. The ones you are going to remember are people high up in cabals.
That reminds me of the saying, "When everybody is special, nobody is."
Using that logic however Warpnow, the population of Aabahran is thousands and thousands. There are but say, 30 'legends' on. In an RP sense, there aren't just going to be the legends commiting crimes, many of those NPC citizens that you don't see, would RP-ly be commiting crimes, that you could say Adjudicators take care of (even though they don't actually do that IC).
Us minority legends are the ones that need special attention by the Council. I think at the end of the day, some sub-cabals are open to our own interpretation, and, taking Marty as an example, as he posted about his RP, his fits the council RP still. Wanting to the one who leads his underlings into battle and so on.
If you put in perspective, of the actual population of Aabahran, and the fact that there are anywhere between 10-40 'legends' on at a time, with the minority of them, say at the most, four or five at any one time, being wanted/outlaw, does that not warrant them being big fish?
Dey
How many active pinns would you say there are? 100 or so?
There were far less people than that Caeser would have personally taken out if they had commited a crime. Caeser would take out political activists, enemies of war...people who spoke agianst him, and revolutionaries.
Now that I think about it...the system is already set up kind of.
Council should take out the worst of the worst. Outlaws.
Adjucators handle normal criminals. Wanted.
Meh, just my take on things.
How many active pinns would you say there are? 100 or so?
There were far less people than that Caeser would have personally taken out if they had commited a crime. Caeser would take out political activists, enemies of war...people who spoke agianst him, and revolutionaries.
Now that I think about it...the system is already set up kind of.
Council should take out the worst of the worst. Outlaws.
Adjucators handle normal criminals. Wanted.
Meh, just my take on things.
Yes, lets just take your figure of 100 active pinns. Not 100 active outlaws/wanteds though. 
The council-outlaw and adjudicator-wanted thing, I see what you're saying with that, but with Tribunal sub-cabals (Correct me if I'm wrong) I don't see as a 'fixed' role. Council, in my view, should be able to roll with the rest of their adjudicator buddies, but they can pass laws and such. The 'judicators have their skills and RP geared 100% towards criminal catching.
Just my view anyway.
Dey
Dey
I tend to view it like Rome.
There was the Senate. Council.
And there were the generals...like Caeser and Pompei. Adjucators.
Caeser was killed by his own people because he mixed the two roles
That's because it was daytime and he was all out of vials. 
Dey