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Maybe change ressurection so that it has a LONG lag. Then it is easier to guard the corpse. But I agree with Warp that it is a bit meaningless right now, except for mopdeaths. Or maybe it could cause you to only lose... half of a life. Like, you get a life back every second time you are resurrected?

Edit: By the way, thinking of the Tribs healers. Is apprehending a criminal really pk? It is not trying to kill someone, just putting him in jail.

Tribunal healers should not be surprised if they are toned down for being very aggressive in catching criminals.

Ok, my turn to chime on the healer debate.

Healers in Cabals: Every war needs medics and physicians, just cause youre a knight doesnt mean you have to cut a path through everything with a red aura sometimes your knight buddies need you to help them be less messy. Same applies with tribunal, though I could see more healers if they were in the Tribunal opting for not having to be forced to apply a death sentence to someone.

Healers and PK: If some abilities were removed as discussed and maybe different paths available I would say PK your brains out, until then I look at Viris mandate and say "If I chase, I expect to be outcasted, if they attack me I'm going to pretend to be a good healer and pound the ever loving crap out of them and hope they dont flee"

Maybe change ressurection so that it has a LONG lag. Then it is easier to guard the corpse. But I agree with Warp that it is a bit meaningless right now, except for mopdeaths. Or maybe it could cause you to only lose... half of a life. Like, you get a life back every second time you are resurrected?

Edit: By the way, thinking of the Tribs healers. Is apprehending a criminal really pk? It is not trying to kill someone, just putting him in jail.

Resurrection has its own penalties built in already. I'll leave it at that.

Oh dear god does it.

Lets just say resurrection's current penalties can at time be worse than any lag imaginable.

Penalties wear off.

Bonuses remain.

Just suggesting ways to let healers resurrection get lives back. What about the "life back every second time"-idea then? Because I think I shoudl never be pointless to call for a healer, which it can be in many situations right now.

No, not pointless. You get the con back (if i understood chayesh correctly) and even at pinn con makes a difference. But you should not get one of your 61 lives back because they are there to make sure noone lives forever.

I think we are lucky as it is that we get the life back from mobdeaths on top of the exp. I think we should get 100% of the exp lost, the con, and not the life.

As for gimping healers and letting them pk, thats a cleric again.

On a side note, the no exp loss from the forsaken lands was genius. Wandered in there completely by accident a while back. Hate that place.

Make it so trib healers cant hae a guard, and cannot use comunions on criminals, that will give them a reason not to be aggro to criminals. HEHE:rolleyes:

I'm glad Teralis pointed out the fact that there's a vampire on-line most of the time. What's with this boredom? Get off your arse and go after the vamp.

Also healers in a cabal with a vamp is total BS and I hope an RP plot is on the way to rectify it.

Can healers attack demons? There's some of those around as well.

Also they can kill necros zombies I would think. Just spare the necro.

Icor as for your reasoning, you seem to make only one point, which is that another form of goodness is mass murder of evils. This is a highly debatable view of goodness, and I think implicitly the suggestion is that nonviolence is morally a step above violence, so for a healer, which are the highest form of mortal good RP, they take that road. This is aside from the balance issue that Raargant explained clearly. If you want to be a killer of all evil, the only ones who really have sanction for that are avatars, who aren't fully mortal. Really angels of death. The rest have to live with their conscience (although many Knights play as if they're avatars, or avatar-lite--I'll kill any evil I want so long as it seems right to me. The idea that Knights are supposed to fight chaos and protect the innocent--even if they're of evil alignment--seems to have died long ago).

Healers can't kill demons.

Some of the healers ethos prevents them from being able to attack Marty.

And some of the healers ARE making the necros cry.

Also healers in a cabal with a vamp is total BS and I hope an RP plot is on the way to rectify it.

Why don't you "rectify" it? Someone high up made it possible for healers and vampires to end up in the same cabal. Maybe there was already an RP plot ... "un-rectifying" it.

As for my reasoning... I agree that it's debateable. That was the original point.

Healers suck anyway...stop bickering.

It's always been possible for healers and vampires/undead to end up in certain cabals.

Nobody's ever had the balls to do it before.

It's always been possible for healers and vampires/undead to end up in certain cabals.

Nobody's ever had the balls to do it before.

Herald isn't a cabal.

Ummm....I just died IG...I lost a con point...was resurrected...it wasn't restored.

What's up?

Has res been furthr toned down?

Herald isn't a cabal.

Hardly.

Also healers in a cabal with a vamp is total BS and I hope an RP plot is on the way to rectify it.

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No, it ain't. The healer serve the cabal, not the vampire.

Quoted the wrong one inadvertently

You're blatantly forgetting Savant