Quick question.
So knowing a weapons will help you defend against it better, even if you're not using that weapon. So does knowing pugil help defend against someone who is using a staff better than just if you knew the staff?
Pugil
I wouldn't think so.
No, Pugil just aids you offence by increasing the number of attacks.
If you are a Ninja wielding a staff it might buy you time to drop your -STR buffs on him. Nerve,Poison ....etc.
Not that this really needs to be pointed out but technically those would be -STR debuffs
The Liege of Baked Goods is right...even though most people around here call them mals.
Having not received a definitive answer, I'll just assume it doesn't. 
@ Mya
Ninjas... with the ... what now? Where did that come from?
The answer is 99% no, it doesn't help.
@ Mya
Ninjas... with the ... what now? Where did that come from?
Just nod and back away slowly.
She is talking about the defensive nature of staffs giving a ninja a chance to chill in combat longer with a superior melee class I think...but who knows what she is really thinking?
Why is a ninja in melee anyway? Strangle, blind, assassinate, loot, move to next victim. What is this ninja in melee crap? He already lost he should be running, not tossing out nerve strikes.
You never fought a melee ninja? I can't recall names, but there have been a few that have been pretty nasty. It is like strangle, blind, poison, nerve, grapple, grapple, grapple, chase some, shoot an arrow into them, grapple, loot.
Ninja's can melee though you use the surprise of hide to get the jump, usually. Vs true melee classes they generally lose if all things are equal (though a smart ninja isn't going to fight you with all things being equal...).
I wouldn't take the pugil option myself - though I can think of exactly what it would so, so, so useful against as a ninja. Depends on how good you think you are at getting the most out of the skillset with no assassinate or throw bonuses.
L-A
The last melee ninja I fought was Clovis?(one of those C people) who was ?????? in 1.0...
Am I showing my age now? 
Pugil destroys thieves - which is a ninja's biggest advantage against them in the battle of the shadows.
Mindflayer player a SICK melee ninja feral in watcher whose name escapes me now.
Take Double sheath or Shadow Arts and you can make a very nice melee ninja. Fired weapons + dual wielding + autothrow from double sheath can make for a very nice opening round if you get that suprise drop on people.
I wouldn't take the pugil option myself - though I can think of exactly what it would so, so, so useful against as a ninja. Depends on how good you think you are at getting the most out of the skillset with no assassinate or throw bonuses.
L-A
?? Pugil isn't a select skill. For what it's worth, I think the doublesheath option is really overrated for ninjas.
Psych: If my memory serves, I think you're talking about Clavrus.
Yes you are right. Clovis is a hot chick at my LARP group. Freudian slip there.
Mindflayer player a SICK melee ninja feral in watcher whose name escapes me now.
Seconded. That NINJA was able to out melee my Vampire! :eek:
Seconded. That NINJA was able to out melee my Vampire! :eek:
My dog could outmelee your vampire.
Hehe. to himself Dogs don't play Forsakenlands.....
That was Rhazhakhar.
The Forsaken played Hankith, who was also a sick feral ninja.
?? Pugil isn't a select skill. For what it's worth, I think the doublesheath option is really overrated for ninjas.
Psych: If my memory serves, I think you're talking about Clavrus.
Auto throw? Thats not overrated at all.