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Allow minotaurs to be lawful

If by RP'ing you mean ranknig to lvl 20 and ruthlessly killing everyone in my PK range again and again, thus showing I am evil - then I'm sure I could :-P

On a more serious note, I could RP one and have my align changed - its just I probably wouldn't want it once I got it

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If by RP'ing you mean ranknig to lvl 20 and ruthlessly killing everyone in my PK range again and again, thus showing I am evil - then I'm sure I could :-P

On a more serious note, I could RP one and have my align changed - its just I probably wouldn't want it once I got it

L-A

I already have the application written.

I realize you define minotaurs as neutral' date=' I'm asking will you allow minotaurs to be evil as a whole, from what I've seen the way FL defines minotaurs is quite evil.[/quote']

Chaotic and evil are two different things.

RE: Lawful Mahn Tor - Since it's tough to compare FL to RL, let's compare it to itself. A place where the city "guards" attack visitors on sight resembles the lawful areas (cities) very little.

RE: Lawful Mahn Tor - Since it's tough to compare FL to RL' date=' let's compare it to itself. A place where the city "guards" attack visitors on sight resembles the lawful areas (cities) very little.[/quote']

Hehehe... this is a very good point.

RE: Lawful Mahn Tor - Since it's tough to compare FL to RL' date=' let's compare it to itself. A place where the city "guards" attack visitors on sight resembles the lawful areas (cities) very little.[/quote']

attacking on sight , is hardly neutral chaotic behavior. A neutral chaotic usually will go along with things until you say something to piss them off.

An evil however is more prone to attack on sight.

What do you call an avatar that attacks an evil on sight? Or a follower of Purity? Then ask yourself what the difference is from a neutral attacking an intruder to their city on sight?

The bottom line is really this:

Mahn-Tor is hardly a lawful city. Minotaurs are not prone to be lawful. Also, there are no plans to allow minotaurs to be lawful.

Jester has been SLAIN by Malchaeius!

Splatters of lost argument and ignorance splatter all over you.

attacking on sight , is hardly neutral chaotic behavior. A neutral chaotic usually will go along with things until you say something to piss them off.

An evil however is more prone to attack on sight.

Secret service agents will kill you without asking questions if you bust into the White House wearing tons of armor and wielding a huge axe without an invite too. Your point?

What do you call an avatar that attacks an evil on sight? Or a follower of Purity? Then ask yourself what the difference is from a neutral attacking an intruder to their city on sight?

The bottom line is really this:

Mahn-Tor is hardly a lawful city. Minotaurs are not prone to be lawful. Also, there are no plans to allow minotaurs to be lawful.

I would consider that evil as well, considering I'm not religious, but at least they have some sort of greater cause, whereas minotaurs do not. In my mind a good person is one that strives to make the world a better place, and in a chaotic goods mind, i can see how slaying evil would make sense. That is hardly comparable to a minotaur attacking everyone they see on sight, with no consideration or prior motive. And Definitely no greater cause.

example: if i were to roll a neutral chaotic in D&D and run around slaughtering people for no reason, or just because they walked into the "room", I would most likely be punished, or killed off for such actions.

However if i took the same character and killed/attacked people who pissed me off, or were blatantly stopping a goal that i had set. It would be looked at as good roleplay.

All I'm saying is that the minotaurs in mahn tor act as evils, therefore if they are the apitimy of what is minotaur, then minotaurs should be evil, not neutral.

Secret service agents will kill you without asking questions if you bust into the White House wearing tons of armor and wielding a huge axe without an invite too. Your point?

They are lawful... They are the apitimy of lawful, and protection of whats left of a free world. By doing so you are breaking a law, by running into mahn tor they are not attacking you to protect their leader, and they are surely not doing so to protect their city. Their doing so because they are pissed off.

They are lawful... They are the apitimy of lawful' date=' and protection of whats left of a free world. By doing so you are breaking a law, by running into mahn tor they are not attacking you to protect their leader, and they are surely not doing so to protect their city. Their doing so because they are pissed off.[/quote']

EDIT #2: You know... I'm tired of this. If you can't grasp the concept of minotaurs, I'm not going to bother to continue trying to explain it to you.

Secret service agents will kill you without asking questions if you bust into the White House wearing tons of armor and wielding a huge axe without an invite too. Your point?

You made me choke on my own spit when I read that...

Glad I amuse you, Aulian. You're the druid Watcher player... you explain the concept of neutral chaotic to him.

Look, to put the whole Mahn-tor minotaurs attacking into perspective I'll say this. You're not paying attention and walk head first into a bee hive, what happens?

You walk into a bear's cave, what happens?

You step on the hill of a colony of fire ants, what happens?

See, it's not about being lawful and protecting their rights. It is about trespassing into their home.

Look, to put the whole Mahn-tor minotaurs attacking into perspective I'll say this. You're not paying attention and walk head first into a bee hive, what happens?

You walk into a bear's cave, what happens?

You step on the hill of a colony of fire ants, what happens?

See, it's not about being lawful and protecting their rights. It is about trespassing into their home.

Thank you.

You could also find all of your answers in the helpfiles of neutral and chaotic.... And even neutral chaotic.

You're a man with the head of a bull. How are you going to be lawful?

I don't see what Mahn-tor has to do with it. Those are mobs, so they're not subject to the rules or restrictions of character creation. There are elven rangers that wield polearms in the Elium also.

What the heck is an apitimy. Are you trying to say epitome? An epiphany maybe? But that doesn't even make any sense. Oh, maybe you will have an epiphany and then realize the epitome of the minotaur!

Minotaur's aren't evil for this reason: They do not kill for the thrill of it all the time. They do not kill because they always "want to", but instead because they are pretty much unstable. They get angry quickly and react off the hip. Their culture is one of violence, with physical strength being a primary reason for leading their people.

If every person in the world that has done something out of anger is evil, then WC, myself, my girlfriend's mother, the priest down the street, the local free mason mayor of our town, and just about everyone else in the world would be evil.

I'm sure you've never done anything out of anger yourself, though.

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Edit: What was I thinking, my girlfriend's mother is evil. Pure evil.