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6 hours ago, Rygothran said:

How.... How does this thread go from a coding idea to AC/DC?

I just now came to read this thread and was like wtf?

@mya If one person watches that entire thing do you consider that post a success?

I watched it all. 

It proves my point.

Edison delivers power first. As I said.

Tesla did what? Created the single most important item used in electricity today. The transformer.

See, Edison did not need nor would he have ever imagined it. Tesla needed it, and through it we convert electricity to any level we wish for a million purposes.

So ultimately, it is Tesla's Transformer that converts the AC in your wall to the DC in your hands.

Thanks.

Nerds.

I hope you're getting paid bank, @Fool_Hardy.

You can't have watched it, because if you did...

Tesla did not invent the transformer. It was invented in Europe after Tesla moved to America.

Edison did not bring it to your home. He was the first in the business, but could not bring power to more than half a mile radius around power plants. Electricity did not reach the general populace until the Niagra Falls project. Alternating Current. Being the first to provide electricity is not the same as being responsible for bringing it to the home environment, unless you were part of the .02% of the population in the coverage area of Direct Current Power Plants. Even that is a generous sample size, as most of his customers were large businesses, and not homes.

Direct current serviced mostly businesses and complex homes, as bringing power into residential districts was not possible. In 3 years of operation, Edison only had a little over 500 customers with roughly a half dozen plants operational.. Not because of the cost of electricity or electric appliances, but because Edison Dynamos could not feasibly and economically provide grid power to a considerable enough era. To say he brought electricity to the home is a stretch, as his company was modeled specifically to cater to large businesses with heavy machinery. And, in fact, he couldn't have even done that much without Tesla's improvements on his own power plants.

The transformer is the big grey box on the power poles. It converts the current going through the power lines into several smaller currents which feed into houses. A rectifier is what you're looking for, here. They differ, in that a transformer allows you to change the voltage of a current, where as a rectifier converts Alternating Current to Direct Current. Quite literally the foundation of several of your posts are confusing that fact, and it's getting kinda funny.

I'm also very confused as to what you mean when you say Tesla put power into your hand. As I stated, he didn't. We use DC for small devices. Mostly that was driven by the need to have a continuous, steady supply of low voltage electricity to ensure that the key components of a computer can run in perpetuity. The size of a computer was not determined by the type of electricity it was provided, but because the parts were big. Computers rely on switches, primarily. And old computers used rotary switches. Those things are huge. Memory in the first computers was a massive construct just to get a single core's worth of storage. And when RAM and ROM were introduced, they were so large that doors had to be reinforced. Some early ROM setups even needed cooling systems that could add up to 2 tons to the apparatus. 

The limitation on older computers had nothing to do with electricity type. It had everything to do with inefficient technology requiring large switches and vacuum tubes. And I think that's what's confusing you. I can see why you'd think computers were limited by Alternating Current because they needed to have conversion take place. Not true. Solid-state just wasn't invented until the late 1940's. There was literally no better option for the early days of computers. DC could not power a house at long distances, and AC could not keep a steady, predictable level of current. 

Drugs are bad, mmmkay? :P

Tesla > Edison 

Anyone who says differently in any fashion surely bought into Edison'sTesla smear campaign.

I can't add much more to what Lloth already said.  So I won't.

This however, is also false:

3 hours ago, Fool_Hardy said:

Edison delivers power first. As I said.

You've been saying that Edison was right, not first.  As you put it, "[he] won all the arguments."  The two are mutually exclusive.  Being right (or first) doesn't always mean better, either.  Or feasible, for that matter.

You are all proving my point.

Your actions have cost us two players since January 1st.

That's on you all. But blindly, you fail to see the point.

Thanks @Erelei for giving me  some hope.

As for the rest of you, wake up. You ALL remember both Edison and Tesla, no other facts from my post were relevant to the conversation.

You all played your part in proving me right.

As you all play your part in bleeding Aabahran out.

HOME. Should be a welcoming place, not a place people are running away from.

I do not need you to agree with me, Aabahran needs you to stop exorcising her beloved souls, and sending her players to the other versions.

When your down to 1 mortal online, it will be too late.

@Unknown Criminal, I will catch you on the flip side.

Bit of an overreaction, but okay.

This is a public forum, if you come to post anything expect people to disagree with you @Fool_Hardy. No one around here is attempting to chase anyone off of the forums or the game. 

There are some who would say that we are but they fail to look at their own actions and point the finger of blame. We don't want to micromanage. We come here for enjoyment too. Damn it. We are all passionate about something we have spent a lot of time on. Passion can create tension. Tension can lead to issues. 

Just play the game and have some fun. Stop the drama.

Really.. such a strong reaction about two dead guys..?

Tesla > Edison

6 minutes ago, Fireman said:

Really.. such a strong reaction about two dead guys..?

Who?  :D

Can we as players not threaten the Immortals with pbase size? 

For future reference, it hurts my feelings more then theirs.

2 hours ago, Fool_Hardy said:

Your actions have cost us two players since January 1st.

As you all play your part in bleeding Aabahran out.

HOME. Should be a welcoming place, not a place people are running away from.

So let me see if I got this right: you think that if anyone comes to the forums and posts something completely ludicrous, that has zero truth in it and is obviously false, everyone is supposed to agree with him out of fear of chasing him away from the game?

Nope.

I expect lower numbers.

Let's watch and see.

Attributing lower playerbase numbers to forum behaviour is like saying Edison won all the arguments. He did not. He tried to use DC to bring electricity to people's homes. This was highly impractical compared to using AC. If anything, he actually slowed down the electrification process due to his personal vendetta against AC.

You are trying to make a point by giving an example that is completely wrong, then you criticise the playerbase for telling you that you are wrong, blaming them of intolerance and rudeness, claiming that this very intolerance and rudeness are the sole reason for the dwindling playerbase....

It's actually quite ironical that you use exactly the Edison-Tesla relationship as example, because in Edison's face you have a person that's totally wrong, yet zealously argues with the guy that's totally right.

Actually activity has been up lately.  Lots of great rp, and the dynamic events are being superbly handled.  

I witnessed a newer player talk about how excited they were, and how much fun they were having. 

So, yeah.  Enough dooooommm.

20 hours ago, Dale said:

If one person watches that entire thing do you consider that post a success?

No, it was an attempt to show why most people link Tesla to AC and Edison to DC. Popular TV science. It taught me almost everything about those two. And The Prestige :P

6 hours ago, Fool_Hardy said:

You are all proving my point.

Your actions have cost us two players since January 1st.

That's on you all. But blindly, you fail to see the point.

I honestly though you were being sarcastic, but after all you were just bitter. This FL administration has been the best one we have had, and the recent RP things are amazing. I'm actualy sorry we couldn't experience this kind of RP athmosphere 4-10 years ago. Our numbers are a result of a decline in Muding as a genere due to players preferences, not the imms.

About UC proposal, I didn't agree until I saw Panek request. Although I dislike non-PK Merchants hording things, the benefit they bring to me outweights my dislike. So I sugest, that Merchants get an expanded rare count check. On player quit command it would check for 4 rares in inventory. On automatic quit void/crash it would allow them 10 or just ignore it. MErchants don't PK, who cares if they have 4 or 100 rares in inventory. They gonna sell it to players. Just make it log somewhere when they void, and when they return show them the message of the number of rares they had when they voided to discourage void quiting. (EDIT: Just send them an auto note on void quit with the excess rares :D)

Another thing, this game is maintained by volunteers. We are all grown ups, let's at least have some measure of respect for them even if we disagree with them.