I was playing around fighting a few different classes today and it got me thinking about one that I came up against. The good cleric and specifically ray of truth.
It is one of the few key spells of a class that can, at times, give off a random effect that may actually be very useful to the enemy. I don't know if I'm allowed to go into specifics so I won't, but I was wondering if perhaps the random effects of the spell might be looked at and some substitutions made, especially to make it a bit more on par with its already (generally) more damaging and useful effect-wise evil counterpart. I could be wrong, but its something I thought about while dancing with a good cleric today and their attack actually put me in a better position in the fight.
i miss ray being actual light based...
It still is.
You have to see, how the class is designed for.
Evil clerics are designed to have maledictions from their path and to fight Paladins.
Good clerics are more designed to fight meele types, so they get their stuff and a treat against mage and DK's.
Ray was changed to not being light based a long long time ago (end of 1.0), if memory serves, because a good clerics were considered too strong against a certain foe. If it has been changed back, I apologize for ever even bringing this topic up. That was the change that, in my mind, took away power/purpose from goodie clerics. I personally don't think it has been changed back, however, and do think that is something that could help give goodie clerics a shot in the arm.
Haha, give them minister, again. 
I'd be plenty happy to see good clerics lose portal and get minister.
At least i can get 100% === DISINTEGRATES === on a certain mid level mob race. While i get Mangles / ***** Demolishes ***** on even lower other mobs.
Tested it on 50+ mob, and did === D === and mangles and ****.
I think it still deals light, but its damage is probably capped.
But chances are im completely off.
I do think it was changed back. I seem to remember an Immortal saying that somewhere...
I had a similar conversation with Iru and he did indeed change it back to light-type damage some time ago.
Shall we consider this topic closed, then?
Excellent! Maybe there is some use to a good cleric after all....
::runs off to start a roller::
i forsee a plethora of halfer clerics running around now....
Can anyone say along with me, better than the usual number of fire/drow clerics we normally have.
Asked a friendly squid to test it. No sanct.
Your ray of truth *** OBLITERATES *** friendly squid!
Your ray of truth MASSACRES friendly squid!
Your ray of truth *** OBLITERATES *** friendly squid!
I think its not.
What were squidboy's saves?
See the MASSACRE, that was the saves.