All this chatter about goods sucking makes me want to bring back the giggle queen as she was named, and show you all!!!![]()
Weapon, and buff items
I personally prefer goodies, it is true that evils have 'better' eq at peak but I noticed at the lower ranks it is easier for goods to get better eq. Mithril set as an example, compared to the tainted set which could get you killed. I am not sure, since I never solo'd many places, but I heard that evil eq is 'harder' to get than good eq.
I used the Soul Forge on Loquaciant. 31 avg dmg. Magic, no disarm, and cool effects. I was consistently demolishing the kelp farmers with it.
The heron blade was slightly different than the mithril sabre I do believe.
L-A just laid it...
No wonder it never called me back...
Oh and if it has not been corrected yet, the bastard sword is 28 and the mithril sabre 27. I believe. Also they both are soketable, a big plus in my mind. Durindel, who cares if it is not that strong, I will wield this over half the weapons at 50. I do think goods should get more polearms.
FL TOP10 WEAPON LIST:
Hells fury - all aligns
Steelfeather- Anti good
Soulblight - Evil Only
Blood Filled Voulge-anti good
Vorpal Sword-Anti good
Forgeman's Great hammer - Neut only
Arctron- Anti Evil
Mourn/stormblade- Anti good
Monorod- all aligns
Godforged- all aligns
4 that goodies can wear, 3 of them can be worn by anyone.
8 for evils
9 for neuts
Goodies have no weapons designed SPECIFICALLY for goodies that compete with the others out there for evils/neuts.
Also lets do another comparison
Bastard sword to Soulblight (goodie only to evil only socketed swords)
Arctron to Soul Forge (goodie exotic to evil exotic)
Bone cane to Pincir staff (A relatively close one, but I give it to bone cane for magic damage and being easier to get.)
Blood filled voulge to hells fury (this is another good toss up, but I really put my money on voulge for a few reasons. It is MUCH easier to get, and deals magic damage with a better damage roll and better + hit/dam)
anyone else please feel free to add to this, and comment on it.
All this chatter about goods sucking makes me want to bring back the giggle queen as she was named' date=' and show you all!!!
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You tell Ceria "Wish to hunt?"
Ceria tells you "*giggles."
You tell Ceria "So, yes?"
Ceria tells you, "teehehehehe."
You tell Ceria "Centaurs?"
Ceria tells you " I SAID GIGGLES
You tell Ceria "I'll bring the icicles, for heavens sake, stop giggling."
Ceria tells you "*GIIIIIIIIIIIGGGGGGGGGLES!!!!!!!!!!!"
delete
delete
slit wrists
Rod of domination and retribution staffs aren't that sexy? aren't they good only?
You tell Ceria "Wish to hunt?"
Ceria tells you "*giggles."
You tell Ceria "So, yes?"
Ceria tells you, "teehehehehe."
You tell Ceria "Centaurs?"
Ceria tells you " I SAID GIGGLES
You tell Ceria "I'll bring the icicles, for heavens sake, stop giggling."
Ceria tells you "*GIIIIIIIIIIIGGGGGGGGGLES!!!!!!!!!!!"
delete
delete
slit wrists
Rod of domination and retribution staffs aren't that sexy? aren't they good only?
both are meh at best. Ret is ok, but is practically the same thing as pincir staff. Rod of Domination is ok, but disarmable and not socketed so overall not as worthwhile as a socketed weapon.
Also Ret is about the hardest staff in game to get.
FL TOP10 WEAPON LIST:
Hells fury - all aligns
Steelfeather- Anti good
Soulblight - Evil Only
Blood Filled Voulge-anti good
Vorpal Sword-Anti good
Forgeman's Great hammer - Neut only
Arctron- Anti Evil
Mourn/stormblade- Anti good
Monorod- all aligns
Godforged- all aligns
4 that goodies can wear, 3 of them can be worn by anyone.
8 for evils
9 for neuts
Goodies have no weapons designed SPECIFICALLY for goodies that compete with the others out there for evils/neuts.
Also lets do another comparison
Bastard sword to Soulblight (goodie only to evil only socketed swords)
Arctron to Soul Forge (goodie exotic to evil exotic)
Bone cane to Pincir staff (A relatively close one, but I give it to bone cane for magic damage and being easier to get.)
Blood filled voulge to hells fury (this is another good toss up, but I really put my money on voulge for a few reasons. It is MUCH easier to get, and deals magic damage with a better damage roll and better + hit/dam)
anyone else please feel free to add to this, and comment on it.
The arctron is just huge though and the voulge has some very big drawbacks too.
If you are asking me, the arctron has the best bonus out of any weapon out there. That's just me though.
Actually, Kreyis the sacrosanct blade(sp) should be on that list. Even if it only shows up every now and then.
I do not count things you cannot actively go get if it is able to be gained.
Honestly I do not see that voulge as having a drawback considering what i use it to fight.
Necros, Ninjas, Thieves, Shamans. Hrm. Yea.
I wouldn't use half the weapons on your top10 list. You're biased. ![]()
Also Ret is about the hardest staff in game to get.
Heh... I got that on a fae invoker of mine a long while back, and the very next log-in I got outcasted to neutral and lost it. I was SO pissed.
Oh and if it has not been corrected yet' date=' the bastard sword is 28 and the mithril sabre 27. I believe.[/quote']
You believe wrong. Like i said before. Sabre is 25.
Bastard is not 28 but way less. Still better than average than sabre.
If being good is such a huge advantage why do the elites never make them?
con Pamiyn...
con Scholin...
Any more dumb questions about there not being powerful goods?
L-A
pamiyn was 2.5 years ago ![]()
So in 2.5 years there have been 2 mean goods? Both played by same person meanwhile in the last 4 month there have been 2 beefy evil cabal leaders that where evil? Yea. Your REALLY illustrating your point L-A ![]()
Pamiyn was not even a year and a half ago...
Not making that comment to back up any argument for or against the points made, I just wanted to add that. ![]()
Dey
pamiyn was 2.5 years ago
So in 2.5 years there have been 2 mean goods? Both played by same person meanwhile in the last 4 month there have been 2 beefy evil cabal leaders that where evil? Yea. Your REALLY illustrating your point L-A
I can't decide for the pbase if they want to play good or evil - however, I know I shy away from good align due to the trash talk from other goods. As an evil I know I can stop loud mouthed fools. As a good I just have to use the ignore command....
In any case - NONE of this means anything in relation to the contention of the thread. Goods, evils and neutrals are fairly well balanced albiet in different way. Just because the FL pbase chooses one more predominantly than the other doesn't disprove this. All it proves is FL player prefer some advantages over others.
L-A
What needs to be done is not a "top 10 list" but a proper eq list with the best for each weapons, I'll start it off but I cant think atm So someone keep adding to it.
AXE:
Good:
Notched - Mundane Damage, Heavy,
Divine reckoning - Magic, Heavy,
Nebula Axe - Magic (avian vuln),
Neut:
Forgemans Hammer - Mundane, Heavy, Socketable,
Divine Reckoning - Magic, Heavy,
Shadde'mel - Magic, Berserker Friendly, Heavy
Nebula Axe - Magic (avian vuln),
Ludans - Mundane, Heavy,
Notched - Mundane, Heavy
Devine Reckoning - Magic, Heavy
Evil:
Rib of Shadde'mel - Magic, Berserker Friendly, Heavy
FLAIL:
Good: *Cant think of any EXTREMELY good ones, but I cant think of the id on Gasterides, but I think its anti-good?
Neut:
Elundaris - Magic
Chain of cerebus - Mundane(?), Socketable,
Wooden stakes - Mundane(?), Socketable,
Gasterides - Mundane, cursed(?)
Evil:
Elundaris - Magic
Chain of cerebus - Mundane(?), Socketable,
Wooden stakes - Mundane(?), Socketable,
Gasterides - Mundane, cursed(?)
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POLEARM:**
Good:
Divine Right of Kings - Mundane,
Withering Scythe - Magic, Socketable
Thin Bladed - Mundane, Wrath,
Ice Pike - Mundane, Usable,
Neut:
Withering scythe - Magic, Socketable,
Blood Filled Voluge - Magic, No remove, No drop, Poison Effect
Ice Pike - Mundane, Usable,
Steel Feather - Socketable, No remove,
Evil:
Withering Scythe - Magic, Socketable,
Onyx Lance - Mundane?,
Wicked Trident - Mundane?
Blood Filled Volgue - Magic, No remove, No drop, Poison Effect
Steal Feather - Socketable, No remove,
DAGGER:
Good:
God Forged - Unsure on id.
Dagger of Divinity - Magic (undead vuln), cursed(?)
Neut:
Rokujan - Mundane, Cursed, Wrath, Wounding
God Forged - Unsure on id.
Dagger of Divinity - Magic (undead vuln), cursed(?)
Rat Dagger - Unsure on Id.
Evil:
Rokujan - Mundane, Cursed, Wrath, Wounding
God Forged - Unsure on id.
Rat Dagger - Unsure on Id.
MACE:
Good:
Power Hammer - Socketable, Two or one handed, cursed?
Neut:
Ancient Sceptre - Socketable, One handed, no remove
Power Hammer - Socketable, Two or one handed, cursed?
Evil:
Ancient Sceptre - Socketable, One handed, no remove
**I've run out of time. Feel free to add stuff to the list including weapons and more of their attributes! Then we can have a decent look. Try and keep it only to better weapons. **
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Cheers**
SWORD:
Good:
Neut:
Evil:
SPEAR:
Good:
Neut:
Evil:
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STAFF:**
Good:
Neut:
Evil:
EXOTIC:
Good:
Neut:
Evil:
BOWS:
Good:
Neut:
Evil:
The Ancient Sceptre and the Wooden Stakes can be wielded by goodies. I had both as Dunli, my Knight Dwarf Cleric...
did my post just get pulled?
