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In melee, a battlemage can be very effective at 30. Blur, air shield, terra shield, armor, shield, stone skin? Add in colour spray, localize gravity and a couple other spells bmages get, and they do pretty well in the end.

Not really. Any dual wield class will run you over if they use the right weapons. Invokers will tear you apart.

But you can be unlaggable, so you shouldn't die, but you may not get the kill.

Maybe not you or me, but the average player who cannot be lagged will still be killed by a good player, because they will just get chased down. And I could see a human bmage getting two rounded by a fire warrior with dual fiery daggers.

Don't battlemages have dagger as a weapon proficiency?

They do. But battlemage will get tore to shreds by a fire giant, ogre, any giant with magical weapons. Let alone a DK with them and fireball/lightning.

And heaven forbid they have a magic nodisarm.

Those people will tear up rogues at that rank too. And probably invokers and other mages too, as well as communers. Moot point.

I pick DK over fire giant @ 30

Invoker too

I definitely pick the fire warrior at 30 over the DK or invoker

So you can't kill or win against everything at 30 with a bmg...guess what? Killing EVERYthing in sight isn't so important for what rank 30 bmgs might want.

It's not about killing everything, its just a conversation about whats hot and whats not at 30.

It's not about killing everything' date=' its just a conversation about whats [b']hot and whats not at 30.

Invokers definitely are

Smart invokers at 30 can do some serious damage. People there don't have the HP to handle more than a couple ice storms unsanced.

They don't have the saves to handle fireballs either.

At 30 Fireballs are not that cheep for DK's.

My Rank 27-28 Dk got killed by a 30 BMG. Made him run once. He made me run 3 times. Then he killed me.

Maybe not you or me' date=' but the average player who cannot be lagged will still be killed by a good player, because they will just get chased down. [/quote']

The average player will get killed by the good player 9 times out of 10 regardless of the class situation, because of that exact reason.

Oh, um... what could be good at rank 30??

Try necro. No one has saves and sleep/summon will take VERY good care of you. evil grin

All in all, its rank 30. Who cares?

L-A

Duh.

Everyone knows PKing at thirty is what seperates the men from the boys.

Dey

Mya == Wasn't me, was it? lol

Grish == not arguing that