Warmasters and Magic?

Being in a cabal at all was IMM/Leader appointed. And cabal skills were completely revamped for 2.0. 1.0 Warmaster/Savant skills were madly overpowered compared to the others. I wasn't kidding when I said I've seen a (normal) Warmaster warrior throw six unspeaks in one round of normal combat. Savants, on the other hand, had counters to this ability, and other impressive boosts more tailored for mages. Communers weren't Savants then, far as I can remember (though I could be wrong on this... was a while ago), but DKs/vamps could be. Knight/Chaos abilities were more tailored to fighting each other, but on a whole were weaker than Savant/Warmaster. Justice guards were a bit stronger, but not enough to counter Warmaster/Savant skills.

Of course, Conclave powers ruled over all, but... that's a whole 'nother story.

Conclave never existed. Don't listen to Pali.

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Then you were under the wrong impression. There were ranks in Cabals even in 1.0.

I think it is you who is under the wrong impression. There were no 'ranks' in cabals in 1.0. You got your abililties upon sucessfully joining.

You may be thinking that Elders and Leaders did still exist and had 'extras.'

L-A

PS - Overall, at the VERY peak of power (IMHO) WM had it over Savant (barely). Both these cabals had it over everyone else. This came with a drawback that WM also had the lowest low of cabal abilities if you ever lost them.

Its a differnt FL these days - peaks aren't as high and lows are (quite) as low.

Very true. Warmasters, without their powers, were screwed. Savants still had all the options available to normal players.

Again, there have been a couple changes. WMs keep some abilities even without standard now. Wm INDUCTEEs still can't use magic but as was said elsewhere they do not loose con either. It is supposed to be a time of trial for them.

They don't lose con when they die at inductee? :eek:

I think it is you who is under the wrong impression. There were no 'ranks' in cabals in 1.0. You got your abililties upon sucessfully joining.

You may be thinking that Elders and Leaders did still exist and had 'extras.'

L-A

PS - Overall, at the VERY peak of power (IMHO) WM had it over Savant (barely). Both these cabals had it over everyone else. This came with a drawback that WM also had the lowest low of cabal abilities if you ever lost them.

Its a differnt FL these days - peaks aren't as high and lows are (quite) as low.

I am not under the wrong impression. They were ranks in every sense of the word. There was member, elder, and leader. Those, I believe are ranks and I stick to it.