Caelduin killed by Vanyra (06/25/2026)

50 hitroll. Crusading against his race. 2h exotic. 115 weapon prof, 105 two handed, 100% in his wielded weapon. I hit him 2 times. Make it make sense. Rogues are busted.

Damage to Caelduin:

Combat Transcript:

Your slice LACERATES Vanyra!
Vanyra has a few scratches. 
Caelduin: [===|===|===|===]
[12:00 | Caelduin: 100% hp 94% mana 83% mv | Vanyra: 95% hp 100% mana 98% mv]

You dodge Vanyra's attack.
You dodge Vanyra's attack.
Vanyra feigns and reaches out towards you.
Vanyra's shadow strike wounds you.
Vanyra's tsuki strike grazes you.
Vanyra dodges your attack.
Vanyra has a few scratches. 
Caelduin: [===|===|===|===]
[12:00 | Caelduin: 98% hp 94% mana 83% mv | Vanyra: 95% hp 100% mana 98% mv]

Vanyra kicks dirt in your eyes!
Vanyra's kicked dirt scratches you.
You can't see a thing!
Caelduin: [===|===|===|===]
[12:00 | Caelduin: 97% hp 94% mana 83% mv | Vanyra: 95% hp 100% mana 98% mv]

Your weapon raised high, you rush someone.
You slam your weapon into someone and send her flying!
Your shock devastates someone!
Caelduin: [===|===|===|===]
[12:00 | Caelduin: 97% hp 94% mana 83% mv | Vanyra: 93% hp 100% mana 98% mv]

You dodge someone's attack.
You block someone's attack with your weapon.
You dodge someone's attack.
Someone feigns and reaches out towards you.
Someone's shadow strike misses you.
You dodge someone's attack.
You dodge someone's attack.
Someone's tsuki strike hits you.
Someone parries your attack.
Caelduin: [===|===|===|===]
[12:00 | Caelduin: 96% hp 94% mana 83% mv | Vanyra: 93% hp 100% mana 98% mv]

Someone's digestion devastates you!
Someone's digestion decimates you!
Someone feigns and reaches out towards you.
Someone's shadow strike hits you.
You parry someone's attack.
You block someone's attack with your weapon.
Someone's tsuki strike injures you.
Someone blocks your attack with her weapon.
The Torso and Arms of Adeptus 'ZGRRTS'!
The Torso and Arms of Adeptus punch wounds Vanyra.
Caelduin: [===|===|===|==-]
[12:00 | Caelduin: 90% hp 94% mana 83% mv | Vanyra: 91% hp 100% mana 98% mv]

Someone gropes at you to drain your vitality!
Someone's touch mauls you.
You lose 9 experience!
Caelduin: [===|===|===|==-]
[12:00 | Caelduin: 88% hp 90% mana 83% mv | Vanyra: 93% hp 100% mana 98% mv]

You brandish the holy symbol but fumble and drop the reagents!
You have become better at destroy undead! [47%]
Caelduin: [===|===|===|==-]
[12:00 | Caelduin: 88% hp 76% mana 83% mv | Vanyra: 93% hp 100% mana 98% mv]

Someone's digestion decimates you!
You block someone's attack with your weapon.
You parry someone's attack.
Someone feigns and reaches out towards you.
Someone's shadow strike misses you.
Someone's tsuki strike wounds you.
You can feel something dig into your body.
Someone's wrath grazes you.
Someone blocks your attack with her weapon.
Someone blocks your attack with her weapon.
Caelduin: [===|===|===|=--]
[12:00 | Caelduin: 83% hp 76% mana 83% mv | Vanyra: 93% hp 100% mana 98% mv]

Someone gropes at you to drain your vitality!
Someone's touch wounds you.
You have been paralyzed!
You lose 9 experience!
Caelduin: [===|===|===|=--]
[12:00 | Caelduin: 82% hp 73% mana 83% mv | Vanyra: 95% hp 100% mana 98% mv]

You parry someone's attack.
You block someone's attack with your weapon.
Someone feigns and reaches out towards you.
Someone's shadow strike hits you.
You dodge someone's attack.
Someone's tsuki strike grazes you.
Someone blocks your attack with her weapon.
Someone dodges your attack.
Caelduin: [===|===|===|=--]
[12:00 | Caelduin: 80% hp 73% mana 83% mv | Vanyra: 95% hp 100% mana 98% mv]

Someone maneuvers to grapple you, and throws you to the ground!
You can barely move!
Someone's grapple maims you!
Caelduin: [===|===|===|=--]
[12:00 | Caelduin: 77% hp 73% mana 83% mv | Vanyra: 95% hp 100% mana 98% mv]

You dodge someone's attack.
You dodge someone's attack.
Someone feigns and reaches out towards you.
Someone's shadow strike misses you.
You block someone's attack with your weapon.
Someone's tsuki strike injures you.
Someone blocks your attack with her weapon.
Someone dodges your attack.
Caelduin: [===|===|===|=--]
[12:00 | Caelduin: 76% hp 73% mana 83% mv | Vanyra: 95% hp 100% mana 98% mv]

You block someone's attack with your weapon.
You dodge someone's attack.
You parry someone's attack.
Someone feigns and reaches out towards you.
Someone's shadow strike hits you.
Someone's tsuki strike scratches you.
Someone blocks your attack with her weapon.
Someone dodges your attack.
Caelduin: [===|===|===|---]
[12:00 | Caelduin: 75% hp 73% mana 83% mv | Vanyra: 95% hp 100% mana 98% mv]

Someone readies a handful of throwing weapons.
Caelduin: [===|===|===|---]
[12:00 | Caelduin: 75% hp 73% mana 83% mv | Vanyra: 95% hp 100% mana 98% mv]

Someone throws her something and hits you with a couple of them.
Someone's throw devastates you!
You block someone's attack with your weapon.
You dodge someone's attack.
You dodge someone's attack.
Someone feigns and reaches out towards you.
Someone's shadow strike wounds you.
Someone's digestion maims you!
Someone's tsuki strike scratches you.
Someone dodges your attack.
Someone blocks your attack with her weapon.
The Torso and Arms of Adeptus 'ZGRRTS'!
The Torso and Arms of Adeptus punch wounds Vanyra.
the Torso and Arms of Adeptus has wound down.
Caelduin: [===|===|===|---]
[12:00 | Caelduin: 68% hp 73% mana 83% mv | Vanyra: 93% hp 100% mana 98% mv]

You can barely move!
You flee from combat!
Caelduin flees north!
You can't see a thing!
You can barely move!

You rub the dirt out of your eyes.
You feel your pulse slow down.
You stop swinging your weapon
[Hope]: 'A Clan Quest has been handed out.  The first to complete it shall have the reward.'
the Clanmaster has given you a quest!
You have to get a package from a Halfling Archer in Flying Citadel and deliver it to the Priest of Blackwatch Village within 1.0 days.
The Torso and Arms of Adeptus emits a loud 'ZGRRT' as the Powerspring glows brightly.

Vanyra walks in.

You yell 'Help! I am being attacked by Vanyra!'
Vanyra throws her throwing knives and hits you with a couple of them.
Vanyra's blow wounds you gravely.
Vanyra's throw devastates you!
You parry Vanyra's attack.
Vanyra feigns and reaches out towards you.
Vanyra's shadow strike misses you.
You block Vanyra's attack with your weapon.
You dodge Vanyra's attack.
Vanyra's tsuki strike grazes you.
Vanyra is in excellent condition. 
Caelduin: [===|===|===|---]
[13:00 | Caelduin: 69% hp 75% mana 86% mv | Vanyra: 100% hp 100% mana 99% mv]

No way!  You are still fighting!
Vanyra is in excellent condition. 
Caelduin: [===|===|===|---]
[13:00 | Caelduin: 69% hp 75% mana 86% mv | Vanyra: 100% hp 100% mana 99% mv]

Huh?
Vanyra is in excellent condition. 
Caelduin: [===|===|===|---]
[13:00 | Caelduin: 69% hp 75% mana 86% mv | Vanyra: 100% hp 100% mana 99% mv]

You can barely move!
You flee from combat!
Caelduin flees north!
Vanyra's wounding scratches you.
Entrance to the Private Quarters

[Exits: north south]
Amar, the Militia Clanguard stands watch here.
The effects of paralysis wear off.

Vanyra walks in.

You yell 'Help! I am being attacked by Vanyra!'
Vanyra throws her throwing knives and hits you with a couple of them.
Vanyra's throw mauls you.
You parry Vanyra's attack.
You block Vanyra's attack with your weapon.
You parry Vanyra's attack.
Vanyra feigns and reaches out towards you.
Vanyra's shadow strike injures you.
Vanyra's tsuki strike wounds you.
You can't concentrate enough.Vanyra is in excellent condition. 
Caelduin: [===|===|==-|---]
[13:00 | Caelduin: 64% hp 75% mana 85% mv | Vanyra: 100% hp 100% mana 99% mv]

You flee from combat!
Caelduin flees south!
Vanyra's wounding scratches you.
Entrance Hall

[Exits: north south west down]

You recite a scroll of missile immunity.
You are now protected from ranged weapons.

Vanyra walks in.

You yell 'Help! I am being attacked by Vanyra!'
Vanyra throws her throwing knives and hits you with a couple of them.
Vanyra's throw devastates you!
Vanyra's digestion mauls you.
Vanyra feigns and reaches out towards you.
Vanyra's shadow strike misses you.
You dodge Vanyra's attack.
You parry Vanyra's attack.
Vanyra's tsuki strike scratches you.
Vanyra is in excellent condition. 
Caelduin: [===|===|==-|---]
[13:00 | Caelduin: 59% hp 75% mana 85% mv | Vanyra: 100% hp 100% mana 99% mv]

Vanyra is in excellent condition. 
Caelduin: [===|===|==-|---]
[13:00 | Caelduin: 59% hp 75% mana 85% mv | Vanyra: 100% hp 100% mana 99% mv]

Your weapon raised high, you rush Vanyra.
You slam your weapon into Vanyra and send her flying!
Your shock devastates Vanyra!
Vanyra has a few scratches. 
Caelduin: [===|===|==-|---]
[13:00 | Caelduin: 59% hp 75% mana 85% mv | Vanyra: 97% hp 100% mana 99% mv]

Vanyra throws her throwing knives and hits you with a couple of them.
Vanyra's throw decimates you!
You dodge Vanyra's attack.
Vanyra's digestion maims you!
Vanyra feigns and reaches out towards you.
Vanyra's shadow strike misses you.
Vanyra's tsuki strike hits you.
Vanyra parries your attack.
Vanyra parries your attack.
Vanyra has a few scratches. 
Caelduin: [===|===|=--|---]
[13:00 | Caelduin: 52% hp 75% mana 85% mv | Vanyra: 97% hp 100% mana 99% mv]

Vanyra maneuvers to grapple you, and throws you to the ground!
Vanyra's grapple maims you!
Vanyra has a few scratches. 
Caelduin: [===|===|---|---]
[13:00 | Caelduin: 49% hp 75% mana 85% mv | Vanyra: 97% hp 100% mana 99% mv]

Vanyra throws her throwing knives and hits you with a couple of them.
Vanyra's throw wounds you.
You parry Vanyra's attack.
You dodge Vanyra's attack.
Vanyra's tsuki strike scratches you.
Your shock maims Vanyra!
Vanyra dodges your attack.
Vanyra has a few scratches. 
Caelduin: [===|===|---|---]
[13:00 | Caelduin: 47% hp 75% mana 85% mv | Vanyra: 94% hp 100% mana 99% mv]

Your weapon raised high, you rush Vanyra.
You slam your weapon into Vanyra and send her flying!
Your shock decimates Vanyra!
Vanyra has a few scratches. 
Caelduin: [===|===|---|---]
[13:00 | Caelduin: 47% hp 75% mana 85% mv | Vanyra: 92% hp 100% mana 99% mv]

Vanyra throws her throwing knives and hits you with a couple of them.
Vanyra's throw wounds you.
You parry Vanyra's attack.
Vanyra feigns and reaches out towards you.
Vanyra's shadow strike misses you.
You parry Vanyra's attack.
You dodge Vanyra's attack.
You parry Vanyra's attack.
Vanyra's tsuki strike injures you.
Vanyra dodges your attack.
Vanyra dodges your attack.
The Torso and Arms of Adeptus 'ZGRRTS' as the Powerspring glows!
the Torso and Arms of Adeptus shoulders open and deadly metal objects fill the air!
You create a mass of metal shards and sends them hurling!
Your sharpmetal maims Vanyra!
Vanyra has some small wounds and bruises. 
Caelduin: [===|===|---|---]
[13:00 | Caelduin: 44% hp 75% mana 85% mv | Vanyra: 89% hp 100% mana 99% mv]

Vanyra throws her throwing knives and hits you with a couple of them.
Vanyra's throw decimates you!
You block Vanyra's attack with your weapon.
You block Vanyra's attack with your weapon.
You block Vanyra's attack with your weapon.
Vanyra's tsuki strike wounds you.
Vanyra blocks your attack with her weapon.
A winged water dragon breathes forth a shard of ice!
You conjure a magical bolt of ice and launch it at Vanyra.
Your icicle hits Vanyra.
Vanyra has some small wounds and bruises. 
Caelduin: [===|==-|---|---]
[13:00 | Caelduin: 40% hp 75% mana 85% mv | Vanyra: 87% hp 100% mana 99% mv]

Your shoulder smash misses Vanyra.
Vanyra has some small wounds and bruises. 
Caelduin: [===|==-|---|---]
[13:00 | Caelduin: 40% hp 74% mana 85% mv | Vanyra: 87% hp 100% mana 99% mv]

Vanyra throws her throwing knives and hits you with a couple of them.
Vanyra's throw mauls you.
You block Vanyra's attack with your weapon.
Vanyra feigns and reaches out towards you.
Vanyra's shadow strike hits you.
You parry Vanyra's attack.
Vanyra's digestion devastates you!
Vanyra's tsuki strike grazes you.
Vanyra dodges your attack.
Vanyra dodges your attack.
The Torso and Arms of Adeptus 'ZGRRTS' as the Powerspring glows!
the Torso and Arms of Adeptus shoulders open and deadly metal objects fill the air!
You create a mass of metal shards and sends them hurling!
Your sharpmetal DISMEMBERS Vanyra!
Vanyra has some small wounds and bruises. 
Caelduin: [===|==-|---|---]
[13:00 | Caelduin: 34% hp 74% mana 85% mv | Vanyra: 83% hp 100% mana 99% mv]

Vanyra kicks dirt in your eyes!
Vanyra's kicked dirt scratches you.
You can't see a thing!
Caelduin: [===|==-|---|---]
[13:00 | Caelduin: 34% hp 74% mana 85% mv | Vanyra: 83% hp 100% mana 99% mv]

Someone throws her something and hits you with a couple of them.
Someone's throw decimates you!
You dodge someone's attack.
You block someone's attack with your weapon.
You dodge someone's attack.
Someone feigns and reaches out towards you.
Someone's shadow strike misses you.
Someone's tsuki strike wounds you.
You can feel something dig into your body.
Someone's wrath injures you.
Someone parries your attack.
Someone dodges your attack.
Caelduin: [===|=--|---|---]
[13:00 | Caelduin: 28% hp 74% mana 85% mv | Vanyra: 83% hp 100% mana 99% mv]

You smash into someone with your armored shoulder!
Your shoulder smash MUTILATES someone!
Caelduin: [===|=--|---|---]
[13:00 | Caelduin: 28% hp 74% mana 85% mv | Vanyra: 79% hp 100% mana 99% mv]

Someone throws her something and hits you with a couple of them.
Someone's throw decimates you!
You block someone's attack with your weapon.
Someone feigns and reaches out towards you.
Someone's shadow strike injures you.
Someone's digestion devastates you!
You sure are BLEEDING!
Someone's tsuki strike grazes you.
You sure are BLEEDING!
Someone dodges your attack.
Caelduin: [===|---|---|---]
[13:00 | Caelduin: 22% hp 74% mana 85% mv | Vanyra: 79% hp 100% mana 99% mv]

You rub the dirt out of your eyes.
You manage to mend your wounds.
Vanyra has some small wounds and bruises. 
Caelduin: [===|---|---|---]
[14:00 | Caelduin: 23% hp 75% mana 94% mv | Vanyra: 85% hp 100% mana 100% mv]

Vanyra gropes at you to drain your vitality!
Vanyra's touch wounds you.
You sure are BLEEDING!
You lose 11 experience!
Vanyra has some small wounds and bruises. 
Caelduin: [===|---|---|---]
[14:00 | Caelduin: 21% hp 71% mana 94% mv | Vanyra: 87% hp 100% mana 100% mv]

Vanyra throws her throwing knives and hits you with a couple of them.
Vanyra's blow wounds you gravely.
Vanyra's throw decimates you!
You sure are BLEEDING!
You block Vanyra's attack with your weapon.
Vanyra's digestion decimates you!
You sure are BLEEDING!
You block Vanyra's attack with your weapon.
You block Vanyra's attack with your weapon.
Vanyra's tsuki strike hits you.
You sure are BLEEDING!
Your shock MUTILATES Vanyra!
The Torso and Arms of Adeptus 'ZGRRTS' as the Powerspring glows!
the Torso and Arms of Adeptus shoulders open and deadly metal objects fill the air!
You create a mass of metal shards and sends them hurling!
Your sharpmetal LACERATES Vanyra!
Vanyra has some small wounds and bruises. 
Caelduin: [==-|---|---|---]
[14:00 | Caelduin: 16% hp 71% mana 94% mv | Vanyra: 79% hp 100% mana 100% mv]

Vanyra kicks dirt in your eyes!
Vanyra's kicked dirt grazes you.
You sure are BLEEDING!
You can't see a thing!
You flee from combat!
Caelduin flees north!
Someone's wounding scratches you.
You sure are BLEEDING!
You can't see a thing!

Your hands glow with a soft light as you place them over your own wounds.
You have become better at lay on hands! [94%]

Someone walks in.

You yell 'Help! I am being attacked by someone!'
Someone throws her something and hits you with a couple of them.
Someone's throw mauls you.
Someone's digestion devastates you!
You block someone's attack with your weapon.
You block someone's attack with your weapon.
Someone feigns and reaches out towards you.
Someone's shadow strike hits you.
Someone's digestion devastates you!
Someone's tsuki strike mauls you.
Caelduin: [===|===|---|---]
[14:00 | Caelduin: 42% hp 54% mana 94% mv | Vanyra: 79% hp 100% mana 99% mv]

Someone throws her something and hits you with a couple of them.
Someone's throw wounds you.
You block someone's attack with your weapon.
You block someone's attack with your weapon.
You dodge someone's attack.
Someone's tsuki strike grazes you.
Someone blocks your attack with her weapon.
Someone dodges your attack.
Caelduin: [===|==-|---|---]
[14:00 | Caelduin: 40% hp 54% mana 94% mv | Vanyra: 79% hp 100% mana 99% mv]

No way!  You are still fighting!
Caelduin: [===|==-|---|---]
[14:00 | Caelduin: 40% hp 54% mana 94% mv | Vanyra: 79% hp 100% mana 99% mv]

Someone maneuvers to grapple you, and throws you to the ground!
Someone's grapple maims you!
Caelduin: [===|==-|---|---]
[14:00 | Caelduin: 37% hp 54% mana 94% mv | Vanyra: 79% hp 100% mana 99% mv]

Someone throws her something and hits you with a couple of them.
Someone's throw mauls you.
You block someone's attack with your weapon.
You parry someone's attack.
You block someone's attack with your weapon.
You dodge someone's attack.
You parry someone's attack.
Someone's tsuki strike hits you.
You are overpowered with intense fear.
Someone parries your attack.
Someone blocks your attack with her weapon.
Caelduin: [===|==-|---|---]
[14:00 | Caelduin: 34% hp 54% mana 94% mv | Vanyra: 79% hp 100% mana 99% mv]

Someone throws her something and hits you with a couple of them.
Someone's throw mauls you.
Someone's digestion devastates you!
Someone's digestion misses you.
Someone's digestion devastates you!
Someone feigns and reaches out towards you.
Someone's shadow strike hits you.
Someone's digestion mauls you.
You sure are BLEEDING!
You block someone's attack with your weapon.
Someone's tsuki strike hits you.
You sure are BLEEDING!
You can feel something dig into your body.
Someone's wrath injures you.
You sure are BLEEDING!
Someone blocks your attack with her weapon.
Someone blocks your attack with her weapon.
Someone dodges your attack.
The Torso and Arms of Adeptus 'ZGRRTS'!
The Torso and Arms of Adeptus clocksaw mauls Vanyra.
Caelduin: [===|---|---|---]
[14:00 | Caelduin: 21% hp 54% mana 94% mv | Vanyra: 77% hp 100% mana 99% mv]

Your weapon raised high, you rush someone.
You miscalculate your blow and fall off balance!
Your shock misses someone.
Caelduin: [===|---|---|---]
[14:00 | Caelduin: 21% hp 54% mana 94% mv | Vanyra: 77% hp 100% mana 99% mv]

Someone gropes at you to drain your vitality!
Someone's touch hits you.
You sure are BLEEDING!
You lose 13 experience!
Caelduin: [===|---|---|---]
[14:00 | Caelduin: 20% hp 52% mana 94% mv | Vanyra: 78% hp 99% mana 99% mv]

Someone throws her something and hits you with a couple of them.
Someone's throw wounds you.
You sure are BLEEDING!
You block someone's attack with your weapon.
You block someone's attack with your weapon.
Someone's digestion maims you!
You sure are BLEEDING!
Someone's tsuki strike mauls you.
You sure are BLEEDING!
Someone blocks your attack with her weapon.
Someone parries your attack.
Caelduin: [==-|---|---|---]
[14:00 | Caelduin: 13% hp 52% mana 94% mv | Vanyra: 78% hp 99% mana 99% mv]

Someone maneuvers to grapple you, and throws you to the ground!
Someone's grapple maims you!
You sure are BLEEDING!
Caelduin: [==-|---|---|---]
[14:00 | Caelduin: 10% hp 52% mana 94% mv | Vanyra: 78% hp 99% mana 99% mv]

Someone throws her something and hits you with a couple of them.
Someone's throw wounds you.
You sure are BLEEDING!
You parry someone's attack.
Someone's digestion mauls you.
You sure are BLEEDING!
Someone's digestion decimates you!
You sure are BLEEDING!
Someone feigns and reaches out towards you.
Someone's shadow strike misses you.
Someone's tsuki strike hits you.
You sure are BLEEDING!
Someone dodges your attack.
Caelduin: [=--|---|---|---]
[14:00 | Caelduin: 3% hp 52% mana 94% mv | Vanyra: 78% hp 99% mana 99% mv]

Someone throws her something and hits you with a couple of them.
Someone's throw devastates you!
You sure are BLEEDING!
You block someone's attack with your weapon.
Someone's digestion mauls you.
You have been KILLED!!

Caelduin has been slain!

I don't usually chime in on PK logs from a staff perspective, but because you asked some questions that focus on the balance of the fight, I'd like to be plain.

You lost this fight because you played extremely poorly. Period.

First of all:

You brandish the holy symbol but fumble and drop the reagents!
You have become better at destroy undead! [47%]

The fuck is this? Just because you CAN get to 50 in a couple hours doesn't mean you SHOULD get to 50 in a couple hours. Train your shit. Every time that ability comes off cooldown since you got it, you should have been tagging it to bring the proficiency up. And it's not one of the abilities you 1-prac.

Second of all...

A pugilist is not an FL 2.0 thief. You cannot just rush lock them to death. You have seven thousand other things you could have been doing - trying to blind them with a shoulder smash. Turning on batter to hopefully disarm them. Timing your deflect on their throw rounds so you minimize per round HP loss. Literally anything other than just trying to easyclapz laglock.

Third of all...

Crusaders are extremely high powered melee with an extremely low number of attacks. They rely on high damage from every hit to make up for that. You're wielding an exotic against someone who has half your weapon selection, and you still chose a weapon they know? As a result, they're hitting you for a moderate amount of damage and you barely hit them at all. Well duh... you're using an exotic against a class with more than one defense. Of course you barely hit them.

So I'm sorry - whether pugilists need some tuning or not is 0% a factor based on this log, because this log records a loss that was 100% your fault. And I say that not to antagonize you, or be condescending, but to say that there are a million things you can improve here before we can even come close to considering the problem being a balance issue with pugilists.

That said, I love you bro and I know you can do better if you put your mind to it. You'll get 'em next time! :)

Just my 2 cents. It feels like most melee classes with dirt kick will be able to do this to you.

Aedric

I'm betting a rush-based strategy actually would work here, but with better weapon selection and adding in venom sacks.

I'm guessing you don't have blind fighting. I know the rogue doesn't. If you can combine rush with fireblind to create a situation where he is lagged and only you can see, the fight probably turns pretty fast.

Anonymous wrote:
I don't usually chime in on PK logs from a staff perspective, but because you asked some questions that focus on the balance of the fight, I'd like to be plain.

You lost this fight because you played extremely poorly. Period.

First of all:

You brandish the holy symbol but fumble and drop the reagents!
You have become better at destroy undead! [47%]

The fuck is this? Just because you CAN get to 50 in a couple hours doesn't mean you SHOULD get to 50 in a couple hours. Train your shit. Every time that ability comes off cooldown since you got it, you should have been tagging it to bring the proficiency up. And it's not one of the abilities you 1-prac.

Second of all...

A pugilist is not an FL 2.0 thief. You cannot just rush lock them to death. You have seven thousand other things you could have been doing - trying to blind them with a shoulder smash. Turning on batter to hopefully disarm them. Timing your deflect on their throw rounds so you minimize per round HP loss. Literally anything other than just trying to easyclapz laglock.

Third of all...

Crusaders are extremely high powered melee with an extremely low number of attacks. They rely on high damage from every hit to make up for that. You're wielding an exotic against someone who has half your weapon selection, and you still chose a weapon they know? As a result, they're hitting you for a moderate amount of damage and you barely hit them at all. Well duh... you're using an exotic against a class with more than one defense. Of course you barely hit them.

So I'm sorry - whether pugilists need some tuning or not is 0% a factor based on this log, because this log records a loss that was 100% your fault. And I say that not to antagonize you, or be condescending, but to say that there are a million things you can improve here before we can even come close to considering the problem being a balance issue with pugilists.

That said, I love you bro and I know you can do better if you put your mind to it. You'll get 'em next time! :)

I do not disagree per se, but let's not forget he's wielding a weapon I know as well. I have crusade bonus increasing my defense against him and lessening his against me. Destroy undead isn't going to win that fight, even if mastered. His weapon is no disarm. I had much higher hitroll. Shoulder smash blind is not reliable, I felt I would benefit more from the lag disrupting his paralyze/grapple.

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Anonymous wrote:
I don't usually chime in on PK logs from a staff perspective, but because you asked some questions that focus on the balance of the fight, I'd like to be plain.

You lost this fight because you played extremely poorly. Period.

First of all:

You brandish the holy symbol but fumble and drop the reagents!
You have become better at destroy undead! [47%]

The fuck is this? Just because you CAN get to 50 in a couple hours doesn't mean you SHOULD get to 50 in a couple hours. Train your shit. Every time that ability comes off cooldown since you got it, you should have been tagging it to bring the proficiency up. And it's not one of the abilities you 1-prac.

Second of all...

A pugilist is not an FL 2.0 thief. You cannot just rush lock them to death. You have seven thousand other things you could have been doing - trying to blind them with a shoulder smash. Turning on batter to hopefully disarm them. Timing your deflect on their throw rounds so you minimize per round HP loss. Literally anything other than just trying to easyclapz laglock.

Third of all...

Crusaders are extremely high powered melee with an extremely low number of attacks. They rely on high damage from every hit to make up for that. You're wielding an exotic against someone who has half your weapon selection, and you still chose a weapon they know? As a result, they're hitting you for a moderate amount of damage and you barely hit them at all. Well duh... you're using an exotic against a class with more than one defense. Of course you barely hit them.

So I'm sorry - whether pugilists need some tuning or not is 0% a factor based on this log, because this log records a loss that was 100% your fault. And I say that not to antagonize you, or be condescending, but to say that there are a million things you can improve here before we can even come close to considering the problem being a balance issue with pugilists.

That said, I love you bro and I know you can do better if you put your mind to it. You'll get 'em next time! :)

I do not disagree per se, but let's not forget he's wielding a weapon I know as well. I have crusade bonus increasing my defense against him and lessening his against me. Destroy undead isn't going to win that fight, even if mastered. His weapon is no disarm. I had much higher hitroll. Shoulder smash blind is not reliable, I felt I would benefit more from the lag disrupting his paralyze/grapple.

You're not wrong on any of the individual responses in a vacuum; however, as a whole they totaled up to what appears to be a hoped for rushlock and outmelee, but you weren't outmeleeing him and in large part due to the aggregate of choices you made. Point being there was a lot more you could have done here that would have served you better and this definitely isn't an example of "pugilist too stronk" in my opinion.

PS - against another melee, which a pugilist definitely is, shoulder blind being unreliable is still far better than fighting an opponent that can see.

If we only look at times when both players could see:

Vanyra lands 4/29 attacks (14%)
Caelduin lands 2/11 attacks (18%)

Discrepancy in denominator seems to be driven by jutsu + Vanyra getting off murder rounds.

Fight on water?

My log vs the racer pugilist was me getting tuned up as well lol. Pugilist has just an astronomical amount of unblockable damage. My melee defense was fine, but I was still losing 3 to 5% of my hp a round