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Coeiv vs Morwenna (10/08/2026)

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This log highlights why we packrat consumables and why I'm fairly outspoken against the cut to bag capacity. I need these consumables to be competitive against Mal based classes. 7 gyvels, 6 failures. Without being able to stockpile these things, combat becomes incredibly one sided. That's also 60 80 hit dam with a vuln staff, but without being able to influence the tempo of the fight and accurate movement you just get pummeled. The gyvels weighing 6lbs, and backpacks being so drastically scaled back means I likely won't ever win this fight.

Player Damage % Class Level
Morwenna 1284 100% Vampire 50

Combat Transcript:

Someone's tear mauls you.
You snap back into reality.
You snap out of your daydreaming.
Coeiv: [===|===|===|===]
[15:00 | Coeiv: 97% hp 99% mana 100% mv | Morwenna: 101% hp 76% mana 84% mv]

You flee west from combat!
Coeiv flees west!
Someone's blood loss scratches you.
You sure are BLEEDING!
Someone's blood loss scratches you.
You sure are BLEEDING!
You can't see a thing!


You can't see a thing!

You can't see a thing!

You can't see a thing!

You can't see a thing!

You can't see a thing!

Someone's asphyxiation scratches you.

You can't see a thing!

You can't see a thing!

You quaff a dark red potion.
Someone's blood loss scratches you.
You sure are BLEEDING!
You failed to cure your blindness.

Someone's asphyxiation scratches you.
Someone's blood loss scratches you.
You sure are BLEEDING!

You do not have that potion.

You can't see a thing!

You can't see a thing!

You can't see a thing!

You can't see a thing!

Someone's asphyxiation scratches you.

You quaff a gyvel potion.
You can see again.

[-- 136 lines snipped --]

Morwenna has a few scratches. 
Coeiv: [===|===|===|===]
[16:00 | Coeiv: 96% hp 100% mana 96% mv | Morwenna: 92% hp 66% mana 88% mv]

Morwenna utters the words, 'noselacri'.
You are blinded!
You parry someone's attack.
You block someone's attack with your weapon.
You parry someone's attack.
You block someone's attack with your weapon.
You can feel something dig into your body.
Someone's wrath wounds you.
The Fleshworks squirm and zgrrt.
A winged air dragon spits an arc of energy!
Someone's lightning bolt mauls you.
Someone's blood loss scratches you.
You sure are BLEEDING!
Someone's asphyxiation scratches you.
Someone blocks your attack with her weapon.
Someone blocks your attack with her weapon.
Someone dodges your attack.
Coeiv: [===|===|===|===]
[16:00 | Coeiv: 92% hp 100% mana 96% mv | Morwenna: 96% hp 63% mana 88% mv]

A brilliant shower of shooting stars streaks across the sky!
Someone's disruption MUTILATES you!
You parry someone's attack.
You block someone's attack with your weapon.
Someone's disruption MUTILATES you!
Someone's disruption LACERATES you!
Someone's blood loss scratches you.
You sure are BLEEDING!
Someone's asphyxiation scratches you.
Someone blocks your attack with her weapon.
Someone parries your attack.
Someone dodges your attack.
Someone blocks your attack with her weapon.
Someone parries your attack.
Your rays LACERATE someone!
Coeiv: [===|===|===|=--]
[16:00 | Coeiv: 81% hp 100% mana 96% mv | Morwenna: 92% hp 63% mana 88% mv]

They aren't here.
Coeiv: [===|===|===|=--]
[16:00 | Coeiv: 81% hp 100% mana 96% mv | Morwenna: 92% hp 58% mana 88% mv]

Someone is blinded by the dirt in her eyes!
Your kicked dirt grazes someone.
Coeiv: [===|===|===|=--]
[16:00 | Coeiv: 81% hp 100% mana 96% mv | Morwenna: 91% hp 58% mana 88% mv]

You parry someone's attack.
Someone's form blurs with speed!
Sharp pain explodes in your torso!
Someone's strike decimates you!
Someone's disruption maims you!
You block someone's attack and attempt to strike at the brief opening.
Your riposte maims someone!
You dodge someone's attack.
You dodge someone's attack.
The Torso and Arms of Adeptus 'ZGRRTS'!
The Torso and Arms of Adeptus punch wounds you.
Someone's blood loss scratches you.
You sure are BLEEDING!
Someone's asphyxiation scratches you.
You fire from something and hit someone with no shots.
Something's blast misses someone.
Someone blocks your attack with her weapon.
Someone dodges your attack.
Someone parries your attack.
Someone blocks your attack with her weapon.
Coeiv: [===|===|===|---]
[16:00 | Coeiv: 74% hp 100% mana 96% mv | Morwenna: 88% hp 58% mana 88% mv]

Someone utters the words, 'zawsufuq hajqp'.
Someone's vampiric touch grazes you.
Coeiv: [===|===|===|---]
[16:00 | Coeiv: 73% hp 100% mana 96% mv | Morwenna: 92% hp 55% mana 88% mv]

You parry someone's attack.
You block someone's attack and attempt to strike at the brief opening.
Your riposte maims someone!
You parry someone's attack.
Someone's form blurs with speed!
Sharp pain explodes in your leg!
Someone's strike grazes you.
You parry someone's attack.
You dodge someone's attack.
The Torso and Arms of Adeptus 'ZGRRTS' as the Powerspring glows!
the Torso and Arms of Adeptus shoulders open and deadly metal objects fill the air!
Someone creates a mass of metal shards and sends them hurling!
Someone directs the stream of deadly metal in your direction!
Someone's sharpmetal decimates you!
The Hymn of the Reaper comes alive in Morwenna's hands, spinning into the air.
The Hymn of the Reaper turns on Morwenna with a malevolent hunger.
The Hymn of the Reaper swipes at Morwenna's neck, ripping her jugular open.
The Hymn of the Reaper's decapitating swipe LACERATES Morwenna!
Morwenna is surrounded by an angry whirlwind!
Someone's blood loss scratches you.
You sure are BLEEDING!
Someone's asphyxiation scratches you.
Someone parries your attack.
Someone dodges your attack.
Someone blocks your attack with her weapon.
Coeiv: [===|===|===|---]
[16:00 | Coeiv: 70% hp 100% mana 91% mv | Morwenna: 84% hp 55% mana 88% mv]

Your pulse races as you are consumed by rage!
Someone has fled!
Morwenna flees west!
Your backcutter DISMEMBERS someone!
Someone's blood loss scratches you.
You sure are BLEEDING!

Someone's asphyxiation scratches you.
Someone's blood loss scratches you.
You sure are BLEEDING!

You can't see a thing!

You can't see a thing!

You can't see a thing!

Someone's asphyxiation scratches you.

You quaff a gyvel potion.
You failed to cure your blindness.

You can't see a thing!

You quaff a gyvel potion.
Someone's blood loss scratches you.
You sure are BLEEDING!
You failed to cure your blindness.

Someone's asphyxiation scratches you.

You quaff a gyvel potion.

[-- 34 lines snipped --]

Someone's thrust mauls you.
Coeiv: [===|===|===|---]
[17:00 | Coeiv: 73% hp 84% mana 80% mv | Morwenna: 83% hp 57% mana 91% mv]

Someone's disruption LACERATES you!
You block someone's attack with your weapon.
You dodge someone's attack.
You block someone's attack with your weapon.
The Powerspring glows and with a buzz Adeptus's Upper Arms begin to rotate!
Adeptus's Upper Arms drill punches injure you.
Someone's asphyxiation scratches you.
You fire from something and hit someone with no shots.
Something's blast misses someone.
Someone parries your attack.
Your rays LACERATE someone!
Someone parries your attack.
Coeiv: [===|===|===|---]
[17:00 | Coeiv: 67% hp 84% mana 80% mv | Morwenna: 78% hp 57% mana 91% mv]

You dodge someone's attack.
You dodge someone's attack.
You block someone's attack with your weapon.
Someone's form blurs with speed!
Sharp pain explodes in your torso!
Someone's strike wounds you.
You block someone's attack and attempt to strike at the brief opening.
Your riposte maims someone!
You can feel something dig into your body.
Someone's wrath hits you.
The Fleshworks squirm and zgrrt.
The Torso and Arms of Adeptus 'ZGRRTS'!
The Torso and Arms of Adeptus spring rocket injures you.
Someone's asphyxiation scratches you.
Someone blocks your attack with her weapon.
Someone blocks your attack with her weapon.
Someone blocks your attack with her weapon.
Someone parries your attack.
Coeiv: [===|===|==-|---]
[17:00 | Coeiv: 63% hp 84% mana 80% mv | Morwenna: 78% hp 57% mana 91% mv]

Someone is blinded by the dirt in her eyes!
Your kicked dirt scratches someone.
Someone utters the words, 'noselacri'.
Coeiv: [===|===|==-|---]
[17:00 | Coeiv: 63% hp 84% mana 80% mv | Morwenna: 78% hp 54% mana 91% mv]

You dodge someone's attack.
You parry someone's attack.
You block someone's attack with your weapon.
Someone's form blurs with speed!
Someone's strike grazes you.
You dodge someone's attack.
You dodge someone's attack.
Someone's asphyxiation scratches you.
Your rays LACERATE someone!
Someone parries your attack.
Someone parries your attack.
Coeiv: [===|===|==-|---]
[17:00 | Coeiv: 62% hp 84% mana 80% mv | Morwenna: 73% hp 54% mana 91% mv]

You parry someone's attack.
You block someone's attack with your weapon.
You block someone's attack and attempt to strike at the brief opening.
Your riposte MUTILATES someone!
You block someone's attack with your weapon.
You dodge someone's attack.
Someone's asphyxiation scratches you.
You fire from something and hit someone with no shots.
Something's blast misses someone.
Your rays LACERATE someone!
Your rays LACERATE someone!
Someone blocks your attack with her weapon.
Coeiv: [===|===|==-|---]
[17:00 | Coeiv: 62% hp 84% mana 80% mv | Morwenna: 60% hp 54% mana 91% mv]

Someone has fled!
Morwenna flees south!
Your backcutter MUTILATES someone!

You draw your weapon.
You wield something.
You gain insight into weapon lock as you wield something.

Someone's asphyxiation scratches you.

Alas, you cannot go that way.

Alas, you cannot go that way.

Alas, you cannot go that way.

Alas, you cannot go that way.

Alas, you cannot go that way.

You draw your weapon.
You wield something.
You gain insight into backcutter as you wield something.
You gain insight into power grip as you wield something.

Someone's asphyxiation scratches you.

Alas, you cannot go that way.

Alas, you cannot go that way.

Alas, you cannot go that way.

You can't see a thing!

Alas, you cannot go that way.

You can't see a thing!

Someone's asphyxiation scratches you.

Alas, you cannot go that way.
The sun slowly disappears in the west.
Sound retreats from your senses as you black out.

[-- snip --]

There is 1 character on, the most on since startup was 20.
The title of Master Questor of Aabahran is currently held by Kyria.

Someone's vampiric touch wounds you.
Coeiv: [===|===|==-|---]
[18:00 | Coeiv: 61% hp 80% mana 81% mv | Morwenna: 67% hp 54% mana 99% mv]

You parry someone's attack.
You block someone's attack and attempt to strike at the brief opening.
Your riposte maims someone!
You block someone's attack with your weapon.
Someone's form blurs with speed!
Someone's strike grazes you.
You dodge someone's attack.
The Powerspring glows and with a buzz Adeptus's Upper Arms begin to rotate!
Adeptus's Upper Arms drill punches injure you.
You fire from something and hit someone with one shot.
Something's blast LACERATES someone!
Someone parries your attack.
Someone blocks your attack with her weapon.
Coeiv: [===|===|==-|---]
[18:00 | Coeiv: 60% hp 80% mana 81% mv | Morwenna: 60% hp 54% mana 99% mv]

Your kicked dirt misses someone.
Coeiv: [===|===|==-|---]
[18:00 | Coeiv: 60% hp 80% mana 81% mv | Morwenna: 60% hp 54% mana 99% mv]

Someone utters the words, 'zawsufuq hajqp'.
Someone's vampiric touch grazes you.
You block someone's attack with your weapon.
Someone's form blurs with speed!
Someone's strike misses you.
You parry someone's attack.
You dodge someone's attack.
You dodge someone's attack.
Someone dodges your attack.
Someone blocks your attack with her weapon.
Coeiv: [===|===|==-|---]
[18:00 | Coeiv: 59% hp 80% mana 81% mv | Morwenna: 64% hp 51% mana 99% mv]

You parry someone's attack.
You block someone's attack with your weapon.
You dodge someone's attack.
Someone's form blurs with speed!
Sharp pain explodes in your torso!
Someone's strike devastates you!
You block someone's attack and attempt to strike at the brief opening.
Your riposte MUTILATES someone!
You block someone's attack with your weapon.
Someone blocks your attack with her weapon.
Someone parries your attack.
Someone dodges your attack.
Someone blocks your attack with her weapon.
Someone blocks your attack with her weapon.
Coeiv: [===|===|=--|---]
[18:00 | Coeiv: 57% hp 80% mana 81% mv | Morwenna: 60% hp 51% mana 99% mv]

Someone utters the words, 'zawsufuq hajqp'.
Someone's vampiric touch grazes you.
Coeiv: [===|===|=--|---]
[18:00 | Coeiv: 56% hp 80% mana 81% mv | Morwenna: 64% hp 49% mana 99% mv]

You fall flat on your face!
Your bash misses someone.
Coeiv: [===|===|=--|---]
[18:00 | Coeiv: 56% hp 80% mana 81% mv | Morwenna: 64% hp 49% mana 99% mv]

Someone's disruption LACERATES you!
Someone's disruption MUTILATES you!
You block someone's attack with your weapon.
Someone's disruption MUTILATES you!
You fire from something and hit someone with no shots.
Something's blast misses someone.
Someone parries your attack.
Someone parries your attack.
Coeiv: [===|===|---|---]
[18:00 | Coeiv: 46% hp 80% mana 81% mv | Morwenna: 64% hp 49% mana 99% mv]

Someone utters the words, 'zawsufuq hajqp'.
Someone's vampiric touch grazes you.
Coeiv: [===|===|---|---]
[18:00 | Coeiv: 45% hp 80% mana 81% mv | Morwenna: 68% hp 46% mana 99% mv]

You dodge someone's attack.
You dodge someone's attack.
You parry someone's attack.
Someone's form blurs with speed!
Sharp pain explodes in your torso!
Someone's strike wounds you.
Someone's disruption MUTILATES you!
You block someone's attack and attempt to strike at the brief opening.
Your riposte MUTILATES someone!
You can feel something dig into your body.
Someone's wrath injures you.
The Fleshworks squirm and zgrrt.
Someone dodges your attack.
Your rays LACERATE someone!
Coeiv: [===|==-|---|---]
[18:00 | Coeiv: 39% hp 80% mana 81% mv | Morwenna: 62% hp 46% mana 99% mv]

Someone utters the words, 'bhiae oajh'.
You feel lightheaded as your blood pressure skyrockets.
Someone's blood gout maims you!
Someone flares her nostrils at the scent of blood in the air.
Coeiv: [===|==-|---|---]
[18:00 | Coeiv: 36% hp 80% mana 81% mv | Morwenna: 62% hp 43% mana 99% mv]

You block someone's attack and attempt to strike at the brief opening.
Your riposte maims someone!
Someone's disruption MUTILATES you!
You parry someone's attack.
Someone's form blurs with speed!
Someone's strike grazes you.
You parry someone's attack.
Someone parries your attack.
Someone dodges your attack.
Someone blocks your attack with her weapon.
Coeiv: [===|=--|---|---]
[18:00 | Coeiv: 32% hp 80% mana 81% mv | Morwenna: 59% hp 43% mana 99% mv]

You flee north from combat!
Coeiv flees north!

[-- 225 lines snipped --]

Someone's tear mauls you.
Coeiv: [===|=--|---|---]
[20:00 | Coeiv: 32% hp 84% mana 67% mv | Morwenna: 67% hp 39% mana 93% mv]

Someone is blinded by the dirt in her eyes!
Your kicked dirt scratches someone.
Coeiv: [===|=--|---|---]
[20:00 | Coeiv: 32% hp 84% mana 67% mv | Morwenna: 67% hp 39% mana 93% mv]

You parry someone's attack.
You dodge someone's attack.
You parry someone's attack.
You block someone's attack with your weapon.
You dodge someone's attack.
You block someone's attack and attempt to strike at the brief opening.
Your riposte mauls someone.
Someone's poison grazes you.
Someone's jaws dig deep into your flesh, the bite setting your blood afire with pain.
You feel very sick.
You dodge someone's attack.
You block someone's attack with your weapon.
You fire from something and hit someone with no shots.
Something's blast misses someone.
Someone disappears in undergrowth momentarily and your blow lands short.
Your rays miss someone.
Someone disappears in undergrowth momentarily and your blow lands short.
Your rays miss someone.
Your rays devastate someone!
Someone dodges your attack.
Coeiv: [===|=--|---|---]
[20:00 | Coeiv: 31% hp 84% mana 67% mv | Morwenna: 62% hp 39% mana 93% mv]

You parry someone's attack.
Someone's charge wounds you.
Someone's poison grazes you.
You block someone's attack with your weapon.
You block someone's attack with your weapon.
Someone's jaws dig deep into your flesh, the bite flashing with seering pain.
You dodge someone's attack.
Someone dodges your attack.
Your rays devastate someone!
Coeiv: [===|=--|---|---]
[20:00 | Coeiv: 29% hp 84% mana 67% mv | Morwenna: 59% hp 39% mana 93% mv]

Someone's teeth tear deeply into your flesh.
You feel momentarily ill, but it passes.
Someone's tear injures you.
Coeiv: [===|=--|---|---]
[20:00 | Coeiv: 28% hp 84% mana 67% mv | Morwenna: 59% hp 39% mana 93% mv]

You fall flat on your face!
Your bash misses someone.
Coeiv: [===|=--|---|---]
[20:00 | Coeiv: 28% hp 84% mana 67% mv | Morwenna: 59% hp 39% mana 93% mv]

You block someone's attack with your weapon.
You parry someone's attack.
You parry someone's attack.
You parry someone's attack.
You block someone's attack with your weapon.
You block someone's attack and attempt to strike at the brief opening.
Your riposte mauls someone.
You block someone's attack and attempt to strike at the brief opening.
Your riposte mauls someone.
Someone's poison grazes you.
Someone disappears in undergrowth momentarily and your blow lands short.
Your rays miss someone.
Your rays devastate someone!
Coeiv: [===|=--|---|---]
[20:00 | Coeiv: 27% hp 84% mana 67% mv | Morwenna: 51% hp 39% mana 93% mv]

Someone rubs the dirt out of her eyes.
You manage to completely halt your bleeding.
The protective aura around your body fades.
You stumble as all vitality begins to leave your body.
Coeiv: [===|=--|---|---]
[21:00 | Coeiv: 27% hp 84% mana 67% mv | Morwenna: 58% hp 42% mana 100% mv]

You dodge someone's attack.
You dodge someone's attack.
You dodge someone's attack.
You block someone's attack with your weapon.
You dodge someone's attack.
The Hymn of the Reaper comes alive in Morwenna's hands, spinning into the air.
The Hymn of the Reaper tilts toward Coeiv with a malevolent hunger.
The Hymn of the Reaper swipes at your neck, ripping your jugular open.
The Hymn of the Reaper's decapitating swipe LACERATES you!
You sure are BLEEDING!
Someone's poison scratches you.
You sure are BLEEDING!
You fire from something and hit someone with no shots.
Something's blast misses someone.
Someone dodges your attack.
Someone disappears in undergrowth momentarily and your blow lands short.
Your rays miss someone.
Someone dodges your attack.
Coeiv: [===|---|---|---]
[21:00 | Coeiv: 24% hp 84% mana 67% mv | Morwenna: 58% hp 42% mana 100% mv]

Someone has fled!
Morwenna flees south!
Your backcutter MUTILATES someone!
Someone's poison scratches you.
You sure are BLEEDING!


You draw your weapon.
You wield something.
You gain insight into weapon lock as you wield something.
Someone's poison scratches you.
You sure are BLEEDING!

But you aren't fighting anyone!

You can't see a thing!

You can't see a thing!

You can't see a thing!

You can't see a thing!

You can't see a thing!

Alas, you cannot go that way.

You draw your weapon.
You wield something.
You gain insight into backcutter as you wield something.
You gain insight into power grip as you wield something.
Someone's poison scratches you.
You sure are BLEEDING!
Someone's poison scratches you.
You sure are BLEEDING!

[-- snip --]

You scream in agony as plague sores erupt from your skin.
You've decided not to yell.
Someone's tear LACERATES you!
You sure are BLEEDING!
Coeiv: [===|---|---|---]
[21:00 | Coeiv: 18% hp 78% mana 65% mv | Morwenna: 55% hp 42% mana 96% mv]

You parry someone's attack.
You dodge someone's attack.
Someone's slash maims you!
You sure are BLEEDING!
You dodge someone's attack.
You block someone's attack with your weapon.
You parry someone's attack.
A winged air dragon spits an arc of energy!
Someone's lightning bolt DISMEMBERS you!
You sure are BLEEDING!
Someone's poison scratches you.
You sure are BLEEDING!
You fire from something and hit someone with no shots.
Something's blast misses someone.
Someone dodges your attack.
Coeiv: [==-|---|---|---]
[21:00 | Coeiv: 11% hp 78% mana 65% mv | Morwenna: 55% hp 42% mana 96% mv]

You get a little madder.
Coeiv: [==-|---|---|---]
[21:00 | Coeiv: 11% hp 78% mana 65% mv | Morwenna: 55% hp 42% mana 96% mv]

Your kicked dirt misses someone.
Coeiv: [==-|---|---|---]
[21:00 | Coeiv: 11% hp 78% mana 65% mv | Morwenna: 55% hp 42% mana 96% mv]

You dodge someone's attack.
You block someone's attack and attempt to strike at the brief opening.
Your riposte mauls someone.
You block someone's attack with your weapon.
Someone's claw devastates you!
You sure are BLEEDING!
Someone's charge MUTILATES you!
You sure are BLEEDING!
You dodge someone's attack.
You block someone's attack with your weapon.
The Fleshworks squirm and zgrrt.
The Torso and Arms of Adeptus 'ZGRRTS'!
The Torso and Arms of Adeptus spring rocket injures you.
You sure are BLEEDING!
A winged air dragon spits an arc of energy!
Someone's lightning bolt injures you.
You sure are BLEEDING!
Someone's poison scratches you.
You sure are BLEEDING!
Someone dodges your attack.
Someone dodges your attack.
Someone disappears in undergrowth momentarily and your blow lands short.
Your rays miss someone.
Someone disappears in undergrowth momentarily and your blow lands short.
Your rays miss someone.
Coeiv: [=--|---|---|---]
[21:00 | Coeiv: 2% hp 78% mana 65% mv | Morwenna: 56% hp 42% mana 96% mv]

Someone tackles you onto the ground!
Someone's tackle MUTILATES you!
You have been mortally wounded!!
A challenge has ended.
You have lost the challenge.
You are too hurt to do anything for a while.

Someone reverts back to her natural form.
[Fight ended - no death]

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Kassieti

Coeiv wrote:
This log highlights why we packrat consumables and why I'm fairly outspoken against the cut to bag capacity.

Capacity wasn't cut. The number of items and the amount of weight the bag could hold wasn't adjusted. Only its weight multiplier (which I will grant indirectly changed the amount of weight it could carry.)

I need these consumables to be competitive against Mal based classes. 7 gyvels, 6 failures.

Fair. Though you quaffed a red and five gyvels in that fight. One of your quaffs isn't shown in this log.
During the first blindness, the red failed and a gyvel succeeded.
During the second blindness, four gyvels failed. Bad luck, but it happens. You are trying to dispel a L49 blindness with a L45 cure, after all. One should expect to cure that level of blindness with gyvels on or before the 4th quaff 75% of the time. I guess the second blindness was one of the 25% of the times it didn't. This would have played out this way regardless of if you had 5 or 50 gyvels stockpiled. They don't do a whole lot of good inside a backpack if you can't see the backpack.

Without being able to stockpile these things, combat becomes incredibly one sided.

Nobody says you can't stockpile them still. A sack with 100# carry capacity can hold 16 gyvels. A backpack with a 100# carry capacity and a 45% weight reduction can hold 30 gyvels. Yes, both of those containers will weigh in at 100lbs each, but you can still stockpile those things. My morts tend to run with 20-odd gyvels at any given time.
There's also other containers out there that have a lower multiplier, and I don't mean from crafting.
Will you need to make a choice between [heavy item] and [more consumables]? Possibly. But that's a choice you make.

/-------------------\/------------------------------------------------\
| Coeiv             ||  the Master of War                             |
\-------------------/\------------------------------------------------/
| Str: 25(25)       || Level 50 Sex M          Age                    |
| Int: 15(15)       || Class warrior           Size  large            |
| Wis: 15(15)       || Race  Mecha(fire)       Align                  |
| Dex: 16(16)       || Hp        /             Exp                    |
| Con: 23(23)       || Mana      /             +Hit                   |
\ Lck: [      ]     \/ Move      /             +Dam                   /
/-------------------/\--------------------/\--------------------------\
|      ARMOR        ||      SAVES         || Deity                    |
| Slash             || Spell              || Faith                    |
| Pierce            || Afflictive         || Weight 256/750           |
| Blunt             || Maledictive        || Items  30/38             |
| Magic             || Mental             || Prac          Train      |
|                   || Breath             || RP                       |
|                   ||                    || Gold          CP         |
\-------------------\/--------------------\/--------------------------/
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| CAST LEVELS  Affl: 50   Maled: 47   Mental: 50   Breath: 50         |
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Also: This is you, right? You're under half of your carry capacity right now. You have 119 lbs to spare before you hit that 50% mark, and in a bought backpack, that's a full backpack worth of gyvels with room to spare.
Yes, you have 8 free inventory slots, but 8 is usually plenty where gyvels are concerned.

The gyvels weighing 6lbs, and backpacks being so drastically scaled back means I likely won't ever win this fight.

What's the difference between a backpack being able to hold 30 gyvels and a backpack that is able to hold 166 gyvels? Sorry, no. 100 gyvels as you'll hit the quantity capacity long before you hit the weight capacity there. That you can stick a half a ton, literally, of other consumables into the one that can carry 166 gyvels worth of weight?

That's also 60 80 hit dam with a vuln staff, but without being able to influence the tempo of the fight and accurate movement you just get pummeled.

Has nothing to do with stockpiling consumables. Unless you're counting your consumables into that figure. However, I will agree with the observation.

Anonymous

yep, at least gyvels are fairly high success rate. The stupid eyeballs have a very low success rate. Once you've used the limited supply inventory? good luck! You can't see your bag to get more... You're just expected to full sprint away while blind till you can reset. And! you can expect to be blind every single time, because you'll be charmed. If charm fails, they'll just run away. Zero incentive for them to fight without all the advantages of charm and free mals. The game is cooked.

Kassieti

Are you aware that the WM eyeballs are the same strength as gyvels? For non-Barbs. Yeah, as a non-barb, you can ignore the Level 25 spells of: 'cure blindness'. Same goes for their herbs.
With respect to the "limited supply inventory," that would be the same whether or not you had gyvels or bloodwolf eyes.

Rygothran

Please, follow the forum rules. If you're posting anonymous than use a character name or do not use anonymous.

Anonymous

a gyvel potion
potion · level 20 · liquid · hold
Level 45: 'cure blindness'.
Link to your database

a bloodwolf's eye
pill · level 35 · warflesh
Level 25: 'cure blindness'.
Link to your database

Kassieti 
  case ITEM_PILL:
    WAIT_STATE(ch, 6);
    if (ch->pCabal && IS_CABAL(get_parent(ch->pCabal), CABAL_NOMAGIC) && !IS_BARBARIAN(ch))
    {
      if (!str_cmp(obj->material, "warflesh"))
        flevel = ch->level - 5;
      else
    [snipped]

In case you missed where I said that you can ignore the whole "level x: cure blindness" if you're a non-barb.

Edited by Kassieti
Coeiv

Well I now need more backpacks, which for giants inventory space matters. You can see I'm 500lbs below limit, but I'm also at 30 of 38 items. Now realistically I need another pack for consumables, so that leaves 7 slots open. In this log I used 7 gyvels and a red. My entire free inventory trying to cure blindness. This change definitely impacts low dex melee harder than others except maybe packrat druids because of the raw amount of potions they need to carry.

Kassieti

Again, you quaffed only 5 potions shown in this log and 6 in the full log. One red, five gyvels. That left you with two slots free. One, if you have to save a slot for a travel bag or similar to be pulled from your backpack. If there actually was a seventh consumed, it was either long before or long after this battle.

I get it. You're not used to doing such. The thought may not have ever crossed your mind. I tend to replenish my inventory often, especially on low dexterity races when fighting classes that can blind. Especially when my mal saves are effectively zero like yours are.
I also get that that is also a choice. You're fighting a vampire. Do you prepare for the melee? The blindness and ecstasy? To be fair, I'd probably rely heavily on gyvels, too. It's why I usually carry as many as I can get, having upwards to 30 gyvels on me. Mostly in my bag because of inventory space. But then, I also refresh my inventory as mentioned before. I don't care how many you have, gyvels do you no good inside your bags.

Two of those 38 slots you picked up from exploring, getting the talent, which helps offset this particular complaint. Along with the +weight talent for those low-strength races, also gained from exploring. It's not a coincidence that these three things were rolled out so close to each other. Professions, exploration and the container change.

Your backpack has some 30 items inside of it and weighs in at around 25 lbs. That's some 20 gyvels you can stuff in there still. Not counting other consumables.

Portable Holes. You won't need a store-bought backpack. 9999 items you can stuff in there. 9999 lbs of weight with a 25% multiplier.
Last I checked, you had one. That's a lot of room for a lot of gyvels.

I understand you didn't like the change. I accept that. Given the current state of your character, you don't have much of a leg to stand on. You have a ton of available weight, plenty of inventory space (honestly, 8 slots for consumables is usually plenty) and buckets of container storage. All before we even get to your locker which has room for 200 more items if you ever needed 'extra' inventory slots. You're adapting quite well to the change itself.

Kyria

Druids doesn't carry potions, they carry herbs that they make into potions. Had I made potions, they would disapear in time, but the herbs I can preserve for all future.

With that said, there are some herbs that weigh quite a lot. The spotted mushroom, I belive weighs three pounds (that is one big mushroom), and it ads up. Especially these mushrooms are important because the are brewed into cure critical potions (although I would say they're more like cure light in effectiveness) and even if I rarely use them, they have saved my life in the passed. Now, I have to rely on 10 mushrooms instead of 18 as I'm almost capped on weight to carry, to the extent that I can't pick up some keys.

Gorder

Try being 315/350 weight with only 4 gyvels in your inventory and none in your bags. If you think 750 carry weight has it bad, try something with less than half that. I don't even have the option to really carry 7 gyvels. I cant even carry sparkling arrows because someone decided to bolts being heavy = lets make arrows heavier too. 750 carry weight is a godsend compared to what I'm dealing with right now.

Morwenna

Gyvel weight definitely needs to be looked into. I've advocated for several consumables to be looked at.

Overweight perk sounds GREAT for low strength races.

Sounds like some herbs need to be checked too.

Also, now lower strength races will need to consider armor weight as well.

Kassieti

Gyvel weight will not be changed. Nor will the spotted mushrooms.

Kyria wrote:
Especially these mushrooms are important because the are brewed into cure critical potions

This is exactly why they won't change.

(although I would say they're more like cure light in effectiveness)

Heh. I can see how it can feel like it at times, but they're nowhere close.

If you're wondering, and even if you're not:
A L20 cast of--
Cure light: 1d8+lvl/3 hp 7-14 (avg 10.5)
Cure critical: 3d8+lvl-6 hp 17-38 (avg 27.5)

The cure critical minimum is higher than the cure light maximum.

Tassinvegeta

My main question is whether there are timers on charm spells from Vamps and Necros that prevents them from never truly engaging and spamming it until it finally lands.

Seluniel

If it fails the vamp can immediately flee and try again. I believe it is the same for necro, but I can't say for sure. There's a log of seluniel vs morwenna where they fled to try to immediately recast several times.

Anonymous

I know a Rogue path can do it. But with the current system in place, I really feel classes that can take such a huge advantage from it should definitely have more checks in place. Even on failures.

Tassinvegeta

Anonymous wrote:
I know a Rogue path can do it. But with the current system in place, I really feel classes that can take such a huge advantage from it should definitely have more checks in place. Even on failures.

Meant to post under my forum handle. Its easy to forget. I wonder why the 'anonymous' option is here if we can't actually post anonymously.

Tassinvegeta

Torvek

I'd actually like to see self poisoning make a return. Now the classes that historically relied on sleep to set things up don't really need it. In this log I would have lost with ecstasy landing at all, x just makes it easier

Kassieti

You can still poison yourself. You just can't buy cheap L0 poison that you don't have to worry about it ever rotting on you. Find other ways. Kill a mob for its guts, for example. Though that example does not have a very long shelf lift.