Thyrog, Fire Warrior Reaver vs. Skjor Storm Warrior

Unfortunately I can't log the rest of the fight due to me running away after almost getting my butt handed completely to me in Maelbrim and outside the walls, but any advice would be welcomed. And once again I'm sorry I couldn't get the rest of the fight. I fled to the River south of Val Miran before he finally caught me and killed me.

You yell 'Help! Thyrog just tripped me!'

Thyrog trips you and you go down!

You draw your weapon.

You stop using a glimmering white staff.

You wield the Rod of Light adorned with a hilt ward.

Thyrog's trip scratches you.

Thyrog has a few scratches.

 

Skjor: [===|---|---|---]

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use staff

 

Thyrog parries your attack.

Thyrog parries your attack.

Thyrog blocks your attack with his weapon.

Thyrog blocks your attack and attempts to strike at the brief opening.

Thyrog's riposte wounds you.

You sure are BLEEDING!

Thyrog parries your attack.

Thyrog is shocked by the lightning from the Rod of Light adorned with a hilt ward.

Your shocking bite hits Thyrog.

An Iceborn Boomstick's blast LACERATES you!

You sure are BLEEDING!

You block Thyrog's attack with your weapon.

You parry Thyrog's attack.

You dodge Thyrog's attack.

You block a black dragon's attack with your weapon.

You block a black dragon's attack with your weapon.

Thyrog has a few scratches.

 

Skjor: [===|---|---|---]

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flee

You may only use objects that are worn or are on the ground.

Thyrog parries your attack.

Thyrog parries your attack.

Your rays maul Thyrog.

Thyrog dodges your attack.

Thyrog is shocked by the lightning from the Rod of Light adorned with a hilt ward.

Your shocking bite grazes Thyrog.

You block Thyrog's attack with your weapon.

You block Thyrog's attack with your weapon.

You parry Thyrog's attack.

You parry Thyrog's attack.

You can feel the Burning Cane dig into your body.

Thyrog's wrath wounds you.

You sure are BLEEDING!

You flee east from combat!

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You yell 'Help! Thyrog just tripped me!'

Thyrog trips you and you go down!

You draw your weapon.

You stop using a glimmering white staff.

You wield the Rod of Light adorned with a hilt ward.

Thyrog's trip scratches you.

You sure are BLEEDING!

Thyrog has a few scratches.

 

Skjor: [==-|---|---|---]

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bash

 

Thyrog parries your attack.

Thyrog blocks your attack with his weapon.

Thyrog parries your attack.

Your rays wound Thyrog.

Thyrog is shocked by the lightning from the Rod of Light adorned with a hilt ward.

Your shocking bite hits Thyrog.

An Iceborn Boomstick's blast DISMEMBERS you!

You sure are BLEEDING!

You block Thyrog's attack with your weapon.

You block Thyrog's attack with your weapon.

You block Thyrog's attack with your weapon.

You block Thyrog's attack and attempt to strike at the brief opening.

Your riposte hits Thyrog.

A Gruesome Mask comes to life, twisting into a look of pure evil and terror!

You feel scared for a second.

You dodge a black dragon's attack.

You block a black dragon's attack and attempt to strike at the brief opening.

Your riposte MUTILATES a black dragon!

A black dragon rears and breathes a cloud of poisonous fumes!

Thyrog has some small wounds and bruises.

 

Skjor: [==-|---|---|---]

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bash

 

The white aura around your body fades.

Thyrog has a few scratches.

 

Skjor: [==-|---|---|---]

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Thyrog blocks your attack with his weapon.

Your rays wound Thyrog.

Thyrog parries your attack.

Thyrog parries your attack.

Thyrog blocks your attack and attempts to strike at the brief opening.

Thyrog's riposte LACERATES you!

You sure are BLEEDING!

Thyrog is shocked by the lightning from the Rod of Light adorned with a hilt ward.

Your shocking bite grazes Thyrog.

You parry Thyrog's attack.

You block Thyrog's attack and attempt to strike at the brief opening.

Your riposte hits Thyrog.

You block Thyrog's attack and attempt to strike at the brief opening.

Your riposte hits Thyrog.

You block Thyrog's attack with your weapon.

You parry Thyrog's attack.

You block a black dragon's attack and attempt to strike at the brief opening.

Your riposte maims a black dragon!

Thyrog has some small wounds and bruises.

 

Skjor: [==-|---|---|---]

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flee

You have no sheathed weapons to draw!

Thyrog trips you and you go down!

Thyrog's trip grazes you.

You sure are BLEEDING!

Thyrog has some small wounds and bruises.

 

Skjor: [==-|---|---|---]

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flee

 

Thyrog parries your attack.

Thyrog parries your attack.

Thyrog parries your attack.

Thyrog is shocked by the lightning from the Rod of Light adorned with a hilt ward.

Your shocking bite grazes Thyrog.

You block Thyrog's attack with your weapon.

You dodge Thyrog's attack.

You dodge Thyrog's attack.

You block Thyrog's attack with your weapon.

You parry Thyrog's attack.

You can feel the Burning Cane dig into your body.

Thyrog's wrath mauls you.

You sure are BLEEDING!

You dodge a black dragon's attack.

Thyrog has some small wounds and bruises.

 

Skjor: [=--|---|---|---]

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flee

 

A black dragon bites you!

You feel momentarily ill, but it passes.

Thyrog has some small wounds and bruises.

 

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Thyrog blocks your attack with his weapon.

Thyrog parries your attack.

Thyrog dodges your attack.

Thyrog parries your attack.

Thyrog is shocked by the lightning from the Rod of Light adorned with a hilt ward.

Your shocking bite hits Thyrog.

An Iceborn Boomstick's blast MANGLES you!

You are stunned, but will probably recover.

You have been KILLED!!

Don't fight Thyrog with 343HP :stop:

I was in the process of running like hades

I managed to get to the river and thats where the rest of the fight took place, until my sanc fell I feel like I was doing decent. No flight though which was a bad thing.

There are ways for you to fly.  You need to use them.  It would be nice to see the whole log.  Ice Weapons needed for sure.  Baron also has Ice arrows for shooting him.  If you are really losing to start, don't be afraid to kick dirt and flee.  Catching a full round of dirt kick will let you run and TRY to prepare.

Giant with no flight = death 9/9.98888 times. Also, what was your weapon selection? Was that the staff from Lord Commander you were using?

All things fair, he is going to beat you. His weapon proficiency is higher, so he'll hit more often and harder in addition to having a stronger weapon and fire damage bonus. So I would NOT use a staff against him. I don't know which mastery you are, but you are going to have a lot more luck with exotics to get around his prof and defenses. A longer fight may find you poisoned which is a death sentence if his chasing is good. His race and cabal are definitely stacked against you here.

Even then, he is going to probably out defend and out damage you. If you are not caballed, you don't have a lot of options except fighting on water. If you can play it right, you might be able to catch him with crumbling weapons and get a win that way. You can exploit his vuln with arrows and less easily with melee. If you can poison him you can turn around the fight. Very worst case is that you skirmish until he makes a critical error (such as no weapon). It is a slow battle, so you have plenty of time to gauge the situation.

Letting him trip you may not be a bad thing, as it lags both of you, and he isn't using spells/bash that do damage. It drops his DPS a lot. You aren't either though.

No matter how you do it, from your position, you are fighting as the underdog. You'll need cabal skills to balance it out.

My mastery is in shield, and I was using the rod of light from the Commander's keep as my weapon. So far,  its been one of the only weapons I can keep my hand on without the others getting smashed by zerkers.

That is a good thing. Shield warriors have been rebalanced so many times I can't give you exact advice but it gives you a lot of options. You can certainly nullify his bash, fired weapons and probably nearly all of his melee damage, so you can bring his output way down. Sounds like your goal right now is to get a primary weapon suited to the fight at hand. A shield warrior has a very good chance to outmelee any other warrior.

Don't be afraid to use cheap non-rare shields if you don't have a good one. Him wasting rounds shield disarming you will do the same thing as letting him trip you, except you aren't lagged. Shield of gear is pretty ideal as you can 'use' it for unblockable damage and it is nodrop. Better if you can get it spiked in some way for shield bashing.

So, what I really need is an exotic weapon that can't be disarmed to use against him to offset his mastery in staff, and some more throw away shields basically?

Platinum spiked shield in Ofcol is rare, but spiked (or at least used to be). Gold rimmed buckler I think either is, or socketable so it can be affixed with one. It's been an incredibly long time since I played a Shield Master Warrior, and that's before any change was made to it so it may have changed since then.

5 hours ago, ThatGuy said:

So, what I really need is an exotic weapon that can't be disarmed to use against him to offset his mastery in staff, and some more throw away shields basically?

I suggest an exotic because it may be a way around his super staff defense. It may not be too...you'll have to try things out. Even a rod of stars might be very good here because it is an exotic that hits his vuln. It isn't cursed though, so there is that to consider. I don't think it necessarily needs to be noremove or even an exotic. If he has to actively disarm you, you aren't in much danger as long as it is nodrop and you haven't lagged yourself. Especially with a shield. You might take a round with a few less defenses if he is lucky, but that is it.

His DPS would probably be better if he focused on shield disarm because his fired weapons would go through. He probably does more damage with that than what his staff would produce if you lost some defenses (but had your shield as a shield master). Either way, if he dirts, he will likely follow with a disarm of some kind, so you'll be ready to flee after by then.

It could be that you have little chance to hurt him in melee, so you'll rely on shield bash/blood loss to wear him out.

My main point is that you aren't going to beat a reaver fire giant staff master in staff fighting with your build. He has a lot of bonuses stacked into staves and you have few. You are a shield warrior, so I suggest you play to your strength, not his.

You did a lot better in our first fight, when I let you rest up after you lost link.. remember? You were using a shield and I was actually surprised HOW defensive you were with that. I did beat you fairly easy that time as well, but you did put up a pretty decent fight :)

And remember to fly... but I'm sure you're aware of that.

// Thyrog

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I'd go for a fire blinding weapon & shield or just a fireblinding weapon. Make sure it does not do fire damage.  Use seaweed (flght that does last a little longer), sanc, protection and some ac buffs. Fight on water once you got that fireblinding weapon. Don't stick around if you lose. Bashing is a terrible idea unless you want to hinder him from casting spells, want to stop his bash damage or want to finish him off. If you're almost dead and he's in good condition, don't bash, run.

2 hours ago, Anume said:

If you're almost dead and he's in good condition, don't bash, run.

 

The most important Advice.

Your at Pretty hurt

Hes at A few wounds.

 

Time to run not bash.  Even risky to dirt kick and run in that situation, but if it lands effective.