What does everyone think of moving the level you can reach before getting your description approved to 30? And/or simply not allowing someone without an approved description to hold rares, similar to adventurers. The Imms here are all volunteers, and I greatly appreciate all the time they dedicate. By moving this roadblock up to 30, it would allow players to accomplish so much more in the times when they Imms happen to not be available.
Just a thought.
I'd be down with this idea. The staff can't be around all the time, and I'll spend a day or two at 15 waiting for a check most times. However, it isn't all bad as at 15 you can train past 80%, so grab some gear and head off to the fields.
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I did. Why do you think I have all this time to forum post? 
I don't think that's really necessary, now that IMMs will approve descs while you're not logged on.
They've always done that. Sides, I don't wanna wait, and got nothing better to do whilst I'm doing laundry and my wifes at work. (Having a different work schedule than my wife is both a curse and a blessing. )
There's nothing worse than getting all excited about a new character and their story, writing the desc, figuring out what cabals you're going to apply for, getting into the groove of leveling...and having nobody on to approve your desc.
Besides, note to immortal = no dragons. 
Another possible approach would be to just make a system of diminishing gains on experience until whatever level it gets approved (with a point where gain becomes essentially zero or pointless). That way, it is more beneficial to do something else, be it train, chat, RP, etc. However, if you absolutely have nothing else to do one could still truck onwards for a few levels. You'll spend more time getting the same work done, but that way people will only do this if they have literally nothing else to do.
Excellent idea, except that people would now wait until 30 to write their descriptions and then complain about not having it checked.
Instead: Put it in at level 1. Pray for it to be checked. If it is not approved, send a note. Now you have a description since level 1, it will most likely be approved by the next day.
Excellent idea' date=' except that people would now wait until 30 to write their descriptions and then complain about not having it checked.[/quote']
Slay everyone you see above lvl 20 without at least a few lines showing that they are working on it in their downtime.
There is absolutely no way that it would be right for IMMs to slay anyone they felt like because they did or did not have a description done. This system works, although it isn't always instantly. Apps need fixing a lot faster than description checks do.
There's nothing worse than getting all excited about a new character and their story, writing the desc, figuring out what cabals you're going to apply for, getting into the groove of leveling...and having nobody on to approve your desc.
Besides, note to immortal = no dragons.
False. That's how I got my first dragon, which was pretty recently. I was like "Crap, this way I won't get a dragon though.." much like you said. And lo and behold I log in the next day and have one! ^___^
Food for thought.
There is absolutely no way that it would be right for IMMs to slay anyone they felt like because they did or did not have a description done. This system works' date=' although it isn't always instantly. Apps need fixing a lot faster than description checks do.[/quote']
Dude...there was a smily face at the end and everything...
You guys complain alot...
There are muds out there where you have to APPLY for an account. Then you get to make a character and get to APPLY for that to be approved... THEN you are FORCED to write a description and HAVE IT APPROVED before you can even start PLAYING.
Sort your **** out.
Dude...there was a smily face at the end and everything...
I read in haste. I was on a friend's laptop waiting for him to get ready to go out to eat with the other team (aka our significant others) and decided forum trawling was a good idea.
Aulian: you are right, I've played a mud like that and to be honest...they are pretty weak. Yeah you know you will only be playing with people who actually care about the game enough to wait...3-4 days to get started at the worst in my experience, but when you want to play a game...you want to play then.
Didn't realize you could not to Immortal for your desc--is this in the helpfile?
Dude, I dont' know what the gripe about applications are. I've had applications approved within a week of sending it in. I log about three hours every other day or so after sending it, more if I can, and BAM! I have a response.
Patience is a virtue.
So is discretion.
And sometimes discretion is the better part of valor. 
As Malchaeius said, there is no reason to wait till 15 to drop us a note. If you want a fast approval, write your desc at level 1 SPELLCHECK IT yourself and send us a note.
I see no reason why I shouldn't give out dragons to descs of someone offline if the desc deserves one.
As to applications. If you send us an app, and everytime we happen to catch you we watch you doing nothing / spamming spells / sitting in the fields, we won't approve your app fast. Fastest way is to show a lot of rp, if nobody is around to rp with, use NOTES, keep our attention on you. Keep the rp going. (Note once every 2 - 3 days is fine if you don't get a reaction. IC, RP notes of course, no bitching like "Hey, my app is STILL not approved you lazy Imms!?" )
-> THIS ALSO INCLUDES PMS peers at a certain player who keeps her bombarded with these kind of pms
The only alternative for faster app dealing would be to just reject anyone we do not catch on / see doing only boring things. As it is now, we give them a couple chances to show us they can do more, thus, it takes longer.
Considering how patient you have to be to even become remotly succesful with any character in fl, the short wait on desc apps is in my personal opinion a good hazing.
I agree Eshaine all those things would work...it isn't the effectiveness that is the problem. It is the fact that wars have been started, fought, and won in the less time than it takes for an app to get answered. I don't know what the malfunction is, other than desperately clinging to how it has always been done. Both of these problems could be solved extremely quickly by (waits for dramatic effect and to hold off the flames a second longer.) automating the entire app/desc process. Make those registars do something other than...nothing. Make them the catalyst for the app process. Everyone likes to talk about how hardcore it is here, well if a person's desc sucks or if they aren't worthy of keeping a qrace/qclass...nuke em. Delete their pfile. Maybe make a graveyard section on the forum to elaborate why soandso doesn't exist anymore. And it takes out the favoritism of IMMs (preceived or real). Just put the execution of so and so to a vote amongst all IMMs and majority wins. Makes a 2 week process a 2 hour process or how ever long it takes to get a majority of IMMs to vote. That or you could hire more IMMs...you know ones that last longer than a month or two like Taeltrin (no offense, I know you have big changes in the works. Still, you shouldn't have accepted an IMM position if you weren't going to stick with it.) Another option...leave things the way they are, watch as we continue to have 15 people at the most on, watch us maintain a top 10 spot in the rankings because people spam the vote as often as possible simply because this is their game of choice not because they believe this is somewhere a new player would want to join. I don't vote for this game at all...ever, because I don't believe in half of things going on here. I don't believe in the secrecy to all the sick nasty things people can do. I actually had someone tell me yesterday that they would take me to get a certain object (a goodie at that) but they would not tell me how to get there. I definately do not believe in CS PK as Raargent so eliquently put it. I know someone is going to say, oh you had a bounty or something. Well, I could just claim to have blown taking the bounty and kill whoever I felt like. Everyday this game is more and more Godwars and less and less RP enforced. You really want to be RP enforced. Have anyone who contracts a bounty or accepts a contract wanted for murder. Contract offices are in the cities, making it fall under the law. Fix the things that are actually broken...more people will come, then we will have more people to group with, solving that problem. We will then most likely get more IMMs to approve desc faster, which will foster even more grouping and leveling since people aren't sitting on their hands at 15 for 6 hours or something rediculous like that. This isn't a snail-mail D&D RPG or even a forum post based RPG. It is a video game minus the video...and the whole "able to get things done within a year and a half of starting".
Again, bad Democrat, bad.
