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People who train from one prac are insane.
I remember speigel06's Human Thief, Ranser. He trained from 1 practice. A human thief, from one practice. I wanted to vomit.
If I have one of the giant races, and two pracs brings me to 69-74 or whatever two pracs gets you, I will still use third prac to save a couple points of training. All this 1-prac training for the sake of extra 30 hp is ridiculous, and the next person who says "Yeah but that extra 30hp could be a lifesaver in close fights!" will be given the secret Deykari Treatment. 
Dey
Drunk IMs of shared hand-spasm starlets decomposing under beds?
a-g
All this 1-prac training for the sake of extra 30 hp is ridiculous, and the next person who says "Yeah but that extra 30hp could be a lifesaver in close fights!" will be given the secret Deykari Treatment.
Dey
It's not 30 hp's.
Clerics can go up to 50-60 HP's.
Add + 6 from no Stat Trains.
And you have a PC with more 100-120 HP's.
Considering that a cleric has what ? 650 HPs.
+100 is a lot.
Do you need this extra to kill people. Not really.
But it helps especially if you don't like/don't know how to god suit.
Of course if you conday in 150 hours, it's never worth it.
Freaking powergamer you are, Mya...
It's not 30 hp's.
Clerics can go up to 50-60 HP's.
Add + 6 from no Stat Trains.
And you have a PC with more 100-120 HP's.
Considering that a cleric has what ? 650 HPs.
+100 is a lot.
Do you need this extra to kill people. Not really.
But it helps especially if you don't like/don't know how to god suit.
Of course if you conday in 150 hours, it's never worth it.
That's some strange math you got there Mya.
Actually Mya made perfect sense there. But you sort have to know what she is talking about already to understand it fully.
I understand it fully. A cleric that has trained his skills/spells from 1 prac will get NO MORE than 40 hp above a cleric who has trained from 2.
Contrary to that, such cleric will need an enourmous amout of time to practice master what he needs, the 150 hours which she mentioned there, compared to the 50 hours a normal cleric needs make a HUGE difference.
Spending 150 hours in training skills/spells just to rage delete after a stupid death is a suicide reason mate.
[edit] If you don't get what I mean, then next time Kurvikhel is around, check his perk. Having 40 hp more is not what you need to have a successful character.
I understand what you mean, definitely Mya, the 30hp thing was just a random figure plucked out of thin air.
My point was more aimed at the fact that I find training the most boring thing in the world save for having to watch Titanic. I would sooner save myself the hassle, and minimise as much time spent training possible so as to be able to have fun playing. Let's be realistic, me having extra HP is nothing short of delaying the inevitable as far as I'm concerned. 
Different strokes for different folks I suppose. If you have the insane patience to do that, power to you.
Dey
Having 40 hp more is not what you need to have a successful character.
I agree that 40hp is almost negligible, but 100 or more hp is not.
So if you plan to 1 prac everything, you may as well also max stats
with eq, not trains, and go for that extra 100+ hp.
Let's be realistic, me having extra HP is nothing short of delaying the inevitable as far as I'm concerned.
E Machines are getting better quality each week, and are coming down in price quickly... you are right.
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