I've been comparing a human invoker to an elven one and it seems that the human loses out in every way. The elf has higher base mana and hp than the human. You would think that humans, having a higher con, would at least have better base HP but that just isn't so. The elf learns spells/skills for 1 practice while the human has to spend 2, resulting in the elf having higher base HP because he can pump trains into it. Add in the elven dex and then the elf even has better defenses! So am I correct in understanding that humans caster are complete gimps at lvl 50?
Human Casters = Super Gimps?
'Neone remember that human battlemage that was part of syndi and he just kinda killed everyone?
Yeah, can't remember his damn name.... He had a restring too.
Nah, you've got it all wrong.
Drow Clerics rely on their spells a lot more.
FG clerics use their melee to help.
Elf Invokers rely on their spells a lot more.
Human Invokers rely on their melee a lot more.
Dey
Because a voker relying on melee sounds like such a great idea...
Poplin, Living Blade, Wizard of Slaughter I believe it was.
Poplin was a gnome, I'm almost positive, cause he pwn'd me on the daily
Because a voker relying on melee sounds like such a great idea...
I wasn't being serious. 
Dey
I know...didn't mean to sound mean. Horrible day thus far, sorry for the minor vent of rage.
You don't have to apologise, even if it was a flame. We Brits generally smother ourselves in gravy and mashed potato as an extra underlayer of clothing. It would take a considerable amount of verbal abuse to penetrate a thick layer of lumpy, half-dried British gravy, believe me.
I'm all for the promotion of a healthy atmosphere of banter.
Dey
I knew there was a reason I loved England other than Newcastle beer.
No, Poplin was def human syndi bmg. That I am 100% sure of.
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Ummm..since when could Dwarves be Battlemages?
Dey
KRins, yea, old speckled hen rocks too.
Ummm..since when could Dwarves be Battlemages?
Dey
are you drunk? Or is this a turkey episode?
are you drunk? Or is this a turkey episode?
...never mind. Could have sworn that said "Dwarf Battlemage". 
Dey
I knew there was a reason I loved England other than Newcastle beer.
Nope, that's pretty much the only reason.
Back on topic: Even if there was a human BMG that owned everyone, that doesn't address the issue I am bringing up: It is better to go non-human in almost every case when it comes to casters. If that Human BMG you guys noted above were a Drow, then I'm sure he would of owned even more.
Much mana and autosneak with phat XP-pen vs no XP-pen. Make your choice.
When it comes to invokers humans really blows because of a certain skill, though.
I'll be enjoying it when Big B makes a human voker and just mows you all down like weeds under a bushhog.