"challenge" command suggestions

1. "finish"

Sometimes in duels, you spam a skill. This sometimes lead to a mistaken death. For example: murder Ellwyn, murder Ellwyn, murder Ellwyn, murder Ellwyn

(Ellwyn walks in, gets stunned, and second or third murder spam kills opponent).

"Finish" command will prevent accidents like this from happening? I know it's technically the fault of the spammer, but you all know many of us do it.

1. There seem to be bugs with this challenge command. Mainly, there are many times where it doesn't go to stun and the opponent/Warmaster doesn't get credit for the duel. Here's a few I've come across:

• Plagues, insect swarms, etc. will kill you instead of stun you. And the person doesn't even get credit for the duel either. Warmasters in particular will be asking for another match cause they say they need it to progress.

• Sometimes there is no reason... it says FIGHT, so you do. But it doesn't stun for some reason. Proceeds to death, no stun (bugged fights).

• Sometimes if both opponents challenge each other at the same time and both accept challenges, think it bugs out too. Death, no registered duel.

My only beef is that WMs can get out of challenges by not responding at all.

Challenge

WM does not accept or deny, then he logs off. It used to be auto-accepted if no response was given. I'd like to see this changed and WMs held accountable for being cowardly.

My only beef is that WMs can get out of challenges by not responding at all.

Challenge

WM does not accept or deny, then he logs off. It used to be auto-accepted if no response was given. I'd like to see this changed and WMs held accountable for being cowardly.

Thumbs up. It's different if a WM is completely unable to fight, such as a recent death. Perhaps have a 'nochallenge' flag added to all Warmasters after a death, so they get a chance to recoup before having to decline challenges. But, in the past I've had fully decked WM's (Not inductee) refuse to fight me for no reason. I challenge, they don't have to refuse or accept, and it won't go on their record for 'cowardly' as Egreir put it.

I'd like to see this changed and WMs held accountable for being cowardly.

Lol.

Some people (not naming any names) were taking advantage of the auto accept system by waiting until Warmasters were in Gear or otherwise engaged to screw with records.

There is also nothing stopping anyone from going and outright attacking a Warmaster after issuing a challenge if "cowardice" is in your characters view, rights, and RP. Otherwise, it is just OOC griping.

Don't warmasters have it hard enough? Though this would reinforce warmaster rp (which I like) I think it would need to be implemented with something to make it easier for Warmasters to get/keep gear. Maybe stronger and cheaper cabal equipment, stronger start-off trophies, stronger cabal skills, etc. I'm sorry but it kinda makes me sick to see other players take advantage of warmasters over and over and use them as malform and eq fodder.

shrug

Nice try.

+1 to TassinVegeta. It's bogus that you can abuse the challenge command in order to make a Warmaster stay around when they need to log off because they don't want a refusal on their record and you know that. The whole thing is abusive. In fact, everyone that ISN'T Warmaster shouldn't even care about the record system.

I am all for making Warmasters have an entirely different system other than challenging. IE:

Duels. Only Warmaster can initiate duels.

As to the original idea, it is a good idea, Ellwyn. Unfortunately, the stun position is a set up for not just end of duels, but for bounty collection and a certain WM skill. The best solution, as you've said, is to not spam during a duel to avoid unintentional death.

Don't warmasters have it hard enough?

No they don't. Some of the things they get are quite ridicule. And I mean both ways.

Inductees or whatever not using sanctuary is just... :confused:

But then again some of the stuff/powers they get up the ranks :eek:

Also why do Warmasters need to accept challenges?

It's like non cabaled using standards as a ringing bell to force others to PK them.

If I played meeles more often I would make a Warmaster that would decline every challenge he got and then precede to murder the person who issued it.

Your enforced rules challenges sport skills do not work in that Street, where we often fight over the broken glass of milk bottles on plains of lava.

(for those who did not get it, it's a joke on grapling vs striking MA styles).

Mya...holy ****.. And I thought the streets I grew up on were rough...

As to the original idea' date=' it is a good idea, Ellwyn. Unfortunately, the stun position is a set up for not just end of duels, but for bounty collection and a certain WM skill. The best solution, as you've said, is to not spam during a duel to avoid unintentional death.[/quote']

Ah, everyone's responses put into perspective why certain things are the way they are. The reason that spurred my thoughts on this were a few "friendly" duels to the stun that lead to my death and few crumbled pieces of gear AND vice versa. Just thought I'd try to think of a way to reduce human error.

Ah' date=' everyone's responses put into perspective why certain things are the way they are. The reason that spurred my thoughts on this were a few "friendly" duels to the stun that lead to my death and few crumbled pieces of gear AND vice versa. Just thought I'd try to think of a way to reduce human error. [/quote']

It's not ALL human error. Some of it Poison/Insect swarm is code error.

It's not ALL human error. Some of it Poison/Insect swarm is code error.

A lot of it is code error actually.

And some of it is people killing you on purpose and lying to you in game to reduce the chance of retaliation....I don't know who would do that kind of thing though...

And some of it is people killing you on purpose and lying to you in game to reduce the chance of retaliation....I don't know who would do that kind of thing though...

Yeah..that sucks.

My only beef is that WMs can get out of challenges by not responding at all.

Challenge

WM does not accept or deny, then he logs off. It used to be auto-accepted if no response was given. I'd like to see this changed and WMs held accountable for being cowardly.

This is what ignore is for - stopping those who would attempt to abuse game mechanics:

ignore Lay-About

Now Lay-About cannot issue a challenge to you like the cowardly dog that he is.

I know I've covered this before here.

L-A

I agree. That being said, WM should have to respond to a challenge, not ignore it.

I agree. That being said' date=' WM should have to respond to a challenge, not ignore it.[/quote']

Ignoring is responding. That being said, I'm ignoring the rest of this thread.