How about another tone up for dark knights. After the changes I've never seen so many dark knights make it to pinnacle and never have I thought another (other than myself i.e. Waojin) would get cabaled. But now that they've all seen to have phased out maybe people will start listening to me when I bring up the suggestion that they **may **need more stuff?
Dark Knights
Easier to use/get/keep Malforms.
What knd of tone ups do you think would help them, seeing that you've played some good ones at Pinn?
I would like to hear if other people think before suggesting stuff. Or it could turn into another lost cause. Its not the first time I've suggested more dk stuff.
I would like to hear if other people think before suggesting stuff. Or it could turn into another lost cause. Its not the first time I've suggested more dk stuff.
Which suggests that your previous arguments have been examined and, as there have been no new DK changes since they got magic strike and the shield enhance spell (forgetting the name), rejected. If you have no new arguments, bringing up old ones that have already been refuted is pointless.
Not true, their have been changes due to various opinions. And i'd like to think my experiences in game as dark knights have contributed to them also.
Not true' date=' their have been changes due to various opinions. And i'd like to think my experiences in game as dark knights have contributed to them also.[/quote']
As I said, since magic strike and the shield enhancement spell, they have not had any changes. But you haven't answered the main question. Why do you think they need changes? If you don't think they need changes, why are you asking people for suggestions?
Don't forget the awesome Malform religion based toneups that Behrens was so kind to add.
Don't forget the awesome Malform religion based toneups that Behrens was so kind to add.
Exactly, another example of how DKs have been boosted already.
How they still need boosting is what I'm curious about.
I honestly think DKs are overpowered at the minute.
Perhaps I will roll one up and demonstrate.
I'd like to see bards get preserve before DK's get anything. Also, I'm not so sure they even need anything.
I don't think they need anything. At all. A strong player behind current DKs will have the capacity to absolutely rampage.
And have you actually tried out all of the religions for DK? Malforms are religion-specific. I know I don't need to tell you this, but you should at least experiment a little more with them. I've had my eye on the DK as my next class to play, when I work up the guts to try a new evil. 
Dey
I don't think they need anything. At all. A strong player behind current DKs will have the capacity to absolutely rampage.
And have you actually tried out all of the religions for DK? Malforms are religion-specific. I know I don't need to tell you this, but you should at least experiment a little more with them. I've had my eye on the DK as my next class to play, when I work up the guts to try a new evil.
Dey
So we should all just look for the dark knight that con-deaths at around lvl 23?
Hah, Dey just got burnt.
...wait...
Dey
How many of you guys have played a dk and do decently well with them? And when I say decently well, I mean get cabaled and be able to hold your own as you do with your usual combo's.
But now that I think about it, maybe its mostly their secretive strategy that leads to them being quite underplayed. And if this is the case maybe i'm talking to the wrong people as their are many secretive things I cannot talk about and (to Pali esp)changes that have been made but not publicly made known.
I think I played one to like 25 once, of course it wasn't with the intention of remaining a DK. Now trying to claim that I could hold my own with one is really a pretty funny question. I mean, I could get my face kicked in while doing very little damage with just about any R/C combo...Huge props to all the newbs who take that horrible beating every day and come back for more. We are the reason there are vets. GO US!
i played a DK once... oh wait, but only to 30.
dark knights are only good as breeding grounds for vamps.
I still have not heard a single thing that makes me think they need to be upped other than "people don't play them". I'm fairly busy with my current project and RL, but just for you, I'll make my next char a dk and check out how they're doing. I'll get back to you in a couple months if I think they need boosting.
I still have not heard a single thing that makes me think they need to be upped other than "people don't play them". I'm fairly busy with my current project and RL' date=' but just for you, I'll make my next char a dk and check out how they're doing. I'll get back to you in a couple months if I think they need boosting.[/quote']
Good luck.
Thanks. I've played a few dks before, even one to fifty, and found that they're just not my style of play... we'll see how it goes now.